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Old 05-24-2011, 02:54 PM   #46
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In the main breaker panel, is it an NM cable coming into the panel? Can you trace the black to the cable, then find the ground wire coming in and if it's securely connected into the ground bar?
This is what should be done.

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Help me out here. Is the ground rod to which you attached the #12 wire wired back to the panel ground or not? I seem to see contradicting posts.
Yes, yes, Sir (post # 37), I discovered this yesterday when I went out there again!! Like I said, partially my fault for not explaining it in the first place, but at that time, I didnt pay attention! I initially thought it was just some rod for- who knows. In part, its cuz of so many helpful guys here, I think, that sparked that thought when I was looking at it the second time!!

So, whattya think, sir, am I OK now with having unknowingly grounded it to the same as panel earth rod?
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It sounds to me like at first he did not realize that the ground rod is the ground rod to which the panel connects, but he later figured out that in fact the ground rod he connected to is the ground rod to which the service panel connects.
Right, Will. Thats it! You see, at that time I called it [a rod that goes deep into the ground], or similar . The guys here couldnt verify what kind of rod, of course, so they probably went on the conservative side and suggest "bad idea"........which I can understand.

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Yes, yes, Sir (post # 37), I discovered this yesterday when I went out there again!! Like I said, partially my fault for not explaining it in the first place, but at that time, I didnt pay attention! I initially thought it was just some rod for- who knows. In part, its cuz of so many helpful guys here, I think, that sparked that thought when I was looking at it the second time!!

So, whattya think, sir, am I OK now with having unknowingly grounded it to the same as panel earth rod?
If it is the ground rod for the panel, then you're fine to run it that way, as Allen pointed out in #21 and #26.
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If it is the ground rod for the panel, then you're fine to run it that way, as Allen pointed out in #21 and #26.
Thanks, Sirs. We got it!

Sad, but this thread is over..........
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I'll still maintain that it would be prudent to identify whether this no ground condition existed because there was no ground provided when the circuit was created or if it existed because a wire became loose. Because the ground discontinuity could potentially be from a wire that came loose from a wire nut, the possibility exists that the wire could touch a hot wire and cause arcing.

It's probably unlikely unless somebody was working in the junction box, and for that matter if might be more likely to happen if you try to locate it than if you left it alone. Still, better to find it and fix it than take the chance of finding it because it turned into an arcing condition when you weren't looking.

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