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Cossack 07-22-2008 09:14 PM

Diming lights
 
I have my washing machine and my dishwasher on their own circuits, but when these appliances come on, change cycles, etc. the overhead lights in other rooms dim a little. It is not a major problem, but I wonder if it is a symptom of something wrong.

Yoyizit 07-22-2008 09:38 PM

If your neighbors have the same symptom it's PoCo's problem.

It sounds like a bad connection upstream of all the circuit breakers in your house. There are not very many connections in your panel that fit this description.

The bad connection should be hot to the touch but to test this you'd need thin gloves that can withstand >120v RMS.

If you have a voltmeter, there should be <3 millivolts AC across good, bolted, current-carrying connections.

FrankTheTorontoRealtor 07-22-2008 10:32 PM

Typical problem, check your panel. no gloves needed
 
Is your panel a 60 amp? if it is that's your problem.

$1000 or less to have a 100 Amp breaker panel installed.

must be done by a licensed electrician since the power has to be shut off from the street.

Do it right, do it once.

fj

Speedy Petey 07-22-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankTheTorontoRealtor (Post 142056)
Is your panel a 60 amp? if it is that's your problem.

How do you figure?

Speedy Petey 07-22-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 142035)
The bad connection should be hot to the touch but to test this you'd need thin gloves that can withstand >120v RMS.

A DIYer should NOT be touching (or working with) ANYTHING live, even with "120v RMS" gloves. (What are ">120v RMS" gloves?)

Advising this is HIGHLY negligent! :mad:

Speedy Petey 07-22-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cossack (Post 142023)
I have my washing machine and my dishwasher on their own circuits, but when these appliances come on, change cycles, etc. the overhead lights in other rooms dim a little. It is not a major problem, but I wonder if it is a symptom of something wrong.

Most times this is NOT a major problem and is quite typical.

Most homes, even brand new ones with 400A services, still have this issue from time to time.
The key is dimming just a little. A big dip or any actual flickering, and worse yet bright and dimming, are all bad things.

Yoyizit 07-23-2008 07:56 AM

What are ">120v RMS" gloves?
Gloves with a dielectric breakdown strength >120v RMS.

Advising this is HIGHLY negligent! :mad:
Forgot my disclaimer; sorry. :huh:

Speedy Petey 07-23-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 142128)
Forgot my disclaimer; sorry. :huh:

What, that would make it OK?

Yoyizit 07-23-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 142131)
What, that would make it OK?

Apparently the designers of Internet Forums, or their attorneys, believe so.

Grainger lists Class 00 gloves, tested at 2500v and to be used at a maximum of 500v according to ASTM specs, $40/pr.

I'd think more than a 5% voltage drop measured at the lights when switching on these appliances would indicate a problem.
Page 7 of this spec goes into a little more detail
http://www.idealindustries.com/media...uctions_v4.pdf

Stubbie 07-23-2008 10:16 AM

Yoyizit

Most of what you post is what they call "FREE" advice in my part of the country. This is like getting advice on how to flush your toilet from one of the gasoline companies....."ohhhh just flush it five or six times the more the merrier"...... or how to invest your money from a bank robber.

I'm just having some fun with you....you certainly are an odd one.....but enough already......:)


That last post was hilarious by the way......:)

Stubbie 07-23-2008 10:48 AM

Cossack

I think you are probably just having a typical voltage drop during a motor start up...very common as Speedy has already mentioned. The lights should not stay dim though for these particular appliances. After the motor is running you should see your lights return to normal. Probably the most common occurrence like this is when a central a/c starts its compressor.
Heavy load motors like vacuum cleaners may dim the lights until turned off. Lots of reasons for this but none are worthy of a lot of cost and expense to rectify.
You might check your panel and see if the DW and washer are on the same leg with the lights that are dimming. If so you might reconfigure the two to another leg. Only problem with this is if there are lights on the other leg you will just move the problem to those lights.

Yoyizit 07-23-2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stubbie (Post 142189)
you certainly are an odd one

Droll, I've heard. . .

Cossack 07-23-2008 05:01 PM

The lights just dim a little for 1/2 a second or so. I just did not understand it since the washing machine and dishwasher are on their own circuits.

Now how do I tell if my panel is 60 or 100 amp?

rgsgww 07-23-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cossack (Post 142327)

Now how do I tell if my panel is 60 or 100 amp?

Look at the main breaker (the big breaker) and on the breaker it should have its amperage labeled.

J. V. 07-24-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by luthersmith (Post 142523)
The solution to this is change the system of lighting as soon as possible.
thanks

This thread is going no where. The Op's question reguires an answer, but no action is required. This is a perfectly normal occurrence as the others have said.
The only exception is what Stubbie stated regarding brightening and continuous power loss.


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