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Old 06-10-2012, 01:16 PM   #1
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Would an "airtight" rated recessed remodel can light automatically be OK for a damp location such as over the tub or shower?

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Would an "airtight" rated recessed remodel can light automatically be OK for a damp location such as over the tub or shower?
As long as the water proof trim is used.

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Thank you, but my question is, does the airtight gasket also qualify as a damp location gasket?
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As long as the water proof trim is used.
Water proof? It only need be damp location rated, unless subject to shower spray, then a wet location trim is required...

IMO, i've never seen a shower head spray at the ceiling, so a damp location is all that is required.
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Water proof? It only need be damp location rated, unless subject to shower spray, then a wet location trim is required...

IMO, i've never seen a shower head spray at the ceiling, so a damp location is all that is required.
I fully agree.

Also, there is no such thing as a damp or wet location can. The trim is what makes that designation.
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I fully agree.

Also, there is no such thing as a damp or wet location can. The trim is what makes that designation.
Agreed, the funny thing is that a damp location trim is required where sheetrock is not even damp located rated, it just cracks me up to see a restriction of 3' zone for light fixtures around a tub/shower, yet have the building material not follow the same requirements.
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that's great guys. You have all commented on rjniles response but near as I can tell I have not gotten a clear answer to my question.
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The answer was the housing are not damp or wet rated and do not need to be. It is the trim that has the damp or wet rating.

Whether it needs to be air-tight would be part of the energy code if adopted in your area.
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that's great guys. You have all commented on rjniles response but near as I can tell I have not gotten a clear answer to my question.
Then your reading comprehension skills need some work.
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Agreed, the funny thing is that a damp location trim is required where sheetrock is not even damp located rated, it just cracks me up to see a restriction of 3' zone for light fixtures around a tub/shower, yet have the building material not follow the same requirements.
You can also have damp locations outside the 3' zone. OP probably doesn't want to know about GFCI, either. The reason they're different is so you can see through the debris after the ceiling collapses.

To clearly answer the OP question: No air-tight cans do NOT automatically meet the damp location requirements as spelled out in NEC, unless used with the proper damp location trim. Air-tight cans only prevent the air and moisture from migrating from the can to the uncondition space. By that time the electical components would have been comprimised.

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Thank you, but my question is, does the airtight gasket also qualify as a damp location gasket?
Not necessarily. See post #5.
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My apologies. Yes the answer was provided and I somehow skimmed right over it.
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