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josephmartins 10-10-2012 05:53 PM

Cut a wire, now there's no power to the remaining cable.
 
Good evening all,

I screwed up while removing an electric baseboard heater that we do not use. We planned to re-purpose the circuit to add an outlet in a nearby bathroom.

So I turned off the breaker for that room. Turns out the panel was adequately labeled by the previous owners. The heater was not on the same circuit as the rest of the room. I made the ridiculous assumption that the power was off to the heater without putting my meter on it. I cut the cable and nearly jumped out of my skin when it popped. I put my meter on it (which I should have done beforehand) and now there's no power to the line. I looked at the panel and no breakers were tripped. I did turn them all off then on again anyway.

I looked around and there's no GFCI in sight. And the ones that we do have in the house aren't tripped either - I checked them all.

Lastly, I looked for a sub panel but came up empty.

What else might cause a line to go dead like that?

Jim Port 10-10-2012 06:34 PM

Did you also reset the larger two pole breakers?

josephmartins 10-10-2012 07:14 PM

Hi Jim,

Yes I reset every breaker in the panel. I am at a loss on this one.

stickboy1375 10-10-2012 07:19 PM

Must be a sub-panel or you need to take the panel cover off and test all the 2 pole breakers.

dmxtothemax 10-10-2012 07:29 PM

Have you learnt a leson from this experience ?
ALWAYS ALWAYS check a wire is dead BEFORE you touch it !
Reguardless of what you think you have done to make it safe !
RULE NO 1

josephmartins 10-10-2012 08:39 PM

Oh I should have known better. I usually do check. The one time I let my guard down I screw up. All it takes is one time.

I will have to open the panel and give it a look. Something is definitely up with that circuit.

Gac66610 10-10-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephmartins (Post 1028298)
Good evening all,

I screwed up while removing an electric baseboard heater that we do not use. We planned to re-purpose the circuit to add an outlet in a nearby bathroom.

So I turned off the breaker for that room. Turns out the panel was adequately labeled by the previous owners. The heater was not on the same circuit as the rest of the room. I made the ridiculous assumption that the power was off to the heater without putting my meter on it. I cut the cable and nearly jumped out of my skin when it popped. I put my meter on it (which I should have done beforehand) and now there's no power to the line. I looked at the panel and no breakers were tripped. I did turn them all off then on again anyway.

I looked around and there's no GFCI in sight. And the ones that we do have in the house aren't tripped either - I checked them all.

Lastly, I looked for a sub panel but came up empty.

What else might cause a line to go dead like that?

Good evening,
I'm wonder if there may have been a splice in the wire to the baseboards wire somewhere, and when you arced at the cut point, it also opened the splice ... just a thought.
More than likely its a sub-panel.

dmxtothemax 10-10-2012 10:35 PM

So do you know for sure where the power for that circuit
originates from ?

Follow the cable back if your not sure !
Then start at the beginning.
Test at main breaker,
then test at all points along the way,
There is no easy way !
Specially if your not sure of the electrical system,
and its layout.

josephmartins 10-10-2012 11:05 PM

That's one of the challenges. The wire disappears into a wall and now that the wire is not powered there's no way for me to simply flip breakers looking for the correct one. I'll start with making sure everything is ok at the panel and work my way out from there.

jbfan 10-10-2012 11:28 PM

Do you have a wall mounted t stat, or was it installed on the heater?

josephmartins 10-10-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 1028596)
Do you have a wall mounted t stat, or was it installed on the heater?

mounted on the heater

dmxtothemax 10-11-2012 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephmartins (Post 1028603)
mounted on the heater

Have you checked the t stat ?
And is there voltage on both sides of it ?


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