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rushty6 04-23-2013 08:32 PM

Cut ground wire, okay to reuse?
 
Hey all -

I'm in the process of adding a kitchen peninsula and want to add an outlet on the wall above the counter.

I went up in the attic to scope things out, and lucky me - there's already a wire running from the nearby 20A outlet that terminates in the attic. I think there used to be a partition wall in the kitchen that this ran to. Anyway, it looks like someone intentionally dug the ground out from the middle of the run and snipped it!

As I really don't want to run a whole new wire to the existing outlet, is there any acceptable way to re-use this wire or repair it? Any drawbacks to simply installing a GFCI without the equipment ground?

Thanks

stickboy1375 04-23-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rushty6 (Post 1165867)
Hey all -

I'm in the process of adding a kitchen peninsula and want to add an outlet on the wall above the counter.

I went up in the attic to scope things out, and lucky me - there's already a wire running from the nearby 20A outlet that terminates in the attic. I think there used to be a partition wall in the kitchen that this ran to. Anyway, it looks like someone intentionally dug the ground out from the middle of the run and snipped it!

As I really don't want to run a whole new wire to the existing outlet, is there any acceptable way to re-use this wire or repair it? Any drawbacks to simply installing a GFCI without the equipment ground?

Thanks

If they only cut the ground wire, then just cut the entire wire and box it out and re-splice all the conductors. Use two boxes if you cant reclaim any slack to remake the splice.

mpoulton 04-23-2013 09:32 PM

Since the circuit is actually grounded, and was presumably required to be grounded when it was installed, you cannot legally use a GFCI instead of an equipment grounding conductor. You can just cut a section of cable out, install a J-box at each cut end, and run a short piece of new cable in between. It is odd for someone to have intentionally cut the grounding conductor. They may have done it for a reason (fault? used as a traveler? who knows...) so you should check to make sure it is properly connected at both ends and there isn't something dangerous and weird going on.

Jim Port 04-23-2013 09:34 PM

You should also make sure it it part of the small appliance countertop circuit before extending it into the kitchen.

rushty6 04-23-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 1165926)
You should also make sure it it part of the small appliance countertop circuit before extending it into the kitchen.

The outlet it's coming from is a 20A in the kitchen, although near the floor and not countertop. This outlet is the only thing on that circuit and almost never used.. sound okay?

rushty6 04-23-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mpoulton (Post 1165923)
you should check to make sure it is properly connected at both ends and there isn't something dangerous and weird going on.

Ha, too late.. whoever ripped out the partition wall just pulled the extra wire into the attic and let it sit there, no wire nuts, tape, nothing to cap the ends. And it was still hot :thumbsup:

Jim Port 04-23-2013 10:28 PM

A 20 amp circuit serving receptacles in the kitchen and/or dining room would be acceptable to run to the island.


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