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Old 08-30-2012, 08:36 PM   #31
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Why do you have GFI everywhere? In Canada's they are only required if you are within 1.5m o a sink. Also I would run 12/2 to my counter plugs, 20 amp breakers and split T receptacles
Probably because the OP is in the USA, and every receptacle serving the countertop must be GFCI protected... but we dont need silly 20 amp receptacles...

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Why do you have GFI everywhere? In Canada's they are only required if you are within 1.5m o a sink. Also I would run 12/2 to my counter plugs, 20 amp breakers and split T receptacles
The US code requires every counter top receptacle to be gfci protected.
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The US code requires every counter top receptacle to be gfci protected.
Basically the same way in France. also 20 amp circuit beside the fridge can use 16 amp circuit but the lights have to be on other circuit either 10 or 16 amp circuit depending on conductor size.

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In an effort to derail my own thread, I saw that First Alert has wireless "interconnected" alarms out now. They can be hardwired or battery operated. Anyone tried these as an alternative to the regular interconnected alarms?
I have 9 First Alert OneLink (wireless) w/voice smoke alarms in my house. Two are hardwired, seven are battery. A few are combo smoke/CO. Installed for a year, tested once a month, no problems so far.

My house (built 1984) had two hardwired non-interconnected smoke alarms when I bought it -- one in basement and one in hall on second floor. No alarms in bedrooms or main level.

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Thanks for all the posts. I think I will look into the OneLink smoke alarms.

PS - I am in the USA (Missouri).
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I do not see any wall receptacles.
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I do not see any wall receptacles.
Nice catch Derek. I would have thought someone would have seen that awhile ago.

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I do not see any wall receptacles.
Im hoping they are existing and he's renovating the existing space?
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Nice catch Derek. I would have thought someone would have seen that awhile ago.
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Im hoping they are existing and he's renovating the existing space?
Maybe. OP did not say.
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Maybe. OP did not say.
I figured he didn't draw them in for a reason.... guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I figured he didn't draw them in for a reason.... guess we'll have to wait and see.
There basically arent any walls in the kitchen that do not have countertop/cabinets. The areas to the leftmost side of the diagram are "existing" wall spaces with outlets, but otherwise there are mainly just doors and stairwells separated by very short sections of wall.

There is one wall receptacle located on the top, middle wall, and one located at the bottom of the diagram. Thats about it though. Its a VERY open space, so all of the receptacles are basically ending up on the islands or above countertops.

I should note that the kitchen is basically in the middle of my house, so there are a bunch of openings to other rooms.
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There basically arent any walls in the kitchen that do not have countertop/cabinets. The areas to the leftmost side of the diagram are "existing" wall spaces with outlets, but otherwise there are mainly just doors and stairwells separated by very short sections of wall.

There is one wall receptacle located on the top, middle wall, and one located at the bottom of the diagram. Thats about it though. Its a VERY open space, so all of the receptacles are basically ending up on the islands or above countertops.

I should note that the kitchen is basically in the middle of my house, so there are a bunch of openings to other rooms.
You still need receptacles for the wall space, any wall that is 2' minimum , and fixed glass counts as wall space, but if it was all existing, I'm betting you are okay.
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So are the spaces between the doors 24"? if so, are there receptacles there?
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So are the spaces between the doors 24"? if so, are there receptacles there?
The two toward the bottom left are 30" wide. One has a receptacle, but I will have to add one to the other.

Thanks for pointing this out!

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