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patented 08-30-2012 08:39 AM

Critique my Kitchen Wiring Schematic
 
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I am remodeling my kitchen and am submitting for my permit next week (using homeowners electrical permit). Please take a look at my proposed design and let me know if it looks ok to code.

I have the lighting and receptacles wired on separate pictures for clarity.

Can the range and vent hood be on the same circuit? Do they need to be GFCI?

Can the dishwasher and disposal be on the same 20 A circuit?

Thanks guys!

joecaption 08-30-2012 08:49 AM

Smoke detectors need to be on there own circut.

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 999712)
Smoke detectors need to be on there own circut.

No they dont... unless a state amendment exist, and they are actually smoke alarms... ;)

But they also can't be on the SABC of the kitchen, feed the smoke off the lighting circuit.

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 08:57 AM

I would run a 12-3 to the sink cabinet for the DW and Disposal...

Jim Port 08-30-2012 09:00 AM

Along with the the other smoke alarm comments, there is no way I would install one in a kitchen.

There can be no spot on a kitchen countertop more than 2' from a receptacle.

Is this an electric range or gas?

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 999721)
Along with the the other smoke alarm comments, there is no way I would install one in a kitchen.

Me neither... or outside of a bathroom for that matter.

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 09:10 AM

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patented 08-30-2012 09:24 AM

Thanks guys. I'll run the smoke alarm off of the lighting circuit. I have a requirement in my jurisdiction that I have to include one. Also, the smoke devices are both detectors and alarms, as they must first detect smoke and then send an alarm when detected. :)

Stickboy, why the 12/3 to the dishwasher and disposal? I have no problem doing this, but am wondering what it would gain me?

I should be ok with the 2' between receptacles. The space on the far right-hand side of the kitchen, in the middle, is actually a window and a window seat, so there is no countertop right there.

patented 08-30-2012 09:26 AM

Oh, and the range is all gas, but with electric ignition. (the 240v outlet in the lighting diagram should be removed)

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by patented (Post 999743)
Thanks guys. I'll run the smoke alarm off of the lighting circuit. I have a requirement in my jurisdiction that I have to include one. Also, the smoke devices are both detectors and alarms, as they must first detect smoke and then send an alarm when detected. :)

The NFPA feels differently, but its a non issue. :)

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Originally Posted by patented (Post 999743)
Stickboy, why the 12/3 to the dishwasher and disposal? I have no problem doing this, but am wondering what it would gain me?

For two reasons, one being, if your appliances call for dedicated circuits, the second reason in case you add an appliance later on, insta-hot etc... easier to run that spare wire now... and it wont cost you much more. And I would pull this wire to the actual sink cabinet and install a cord on the dishwasher.

patented 08-30-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 999748)

For two reasons, one being, if your appliances call for dedicated circuits, the second reason in case you add an appliance later on, insta-hot etc... easier to run that spare wire now... and it wont cost you much more.

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. If they call for separate circuits, I assume you are saying I can use a common neutral and then run the red and black wires to separate breakers at the panel?

Thanks again, you guys are a huge help.

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by patented (Post 999754)
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. If they call for separate circuits, I assume you are saying I can use a common neutral and then run the red and black wires to separate breakers at the panel?

Thanks again, you guys are a huge help.

Correct with the breaker situation.

And you could just break the tab off the duplex receptacle and have two circuits on one duplex receptacle...

patented 08-30-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 999755)
And you could just break the tab off the duplex receptacle and have two circuits on one duplex receptacle...

Another good suggestion!

Jim Port 08-30-2012 09:39 AM

Will this smoke alarm be tied into the other ones in the house? Do they require you to bring the entire house up to todays smoke alarm code?

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 999760)
Will this smoke alarm be tied into the other ones in the house? Do they require you to bring the entire house up to todays smoke alarm code?

I know around here they cant force you do to that, but the OP will have to check on what they actually require...


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