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Old 09-18-2012, 10:33 AM   #46
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Even though i dont have to follow it, this is an excerpt from the "Code" permitting exposed non-metallic cables. I did not see anything about having to conceal it in a ceiling
334.15B is what you have to deal with. Protection from physical damage is completely up to the AHJ.

In some areas it is perfectly fine to wire up your garage with romex and not cover the walls up, leaving the romex completely exposed as it passes thru the open studs. In other areas, that would no be allowed.

However, from a realistic standpoint, I don't think 3-4" of exposed romex on an 8' ceiling is subject to physical damage. Certainly not as much as it would be when there are dozens of feet exposed in an open wall or open ceiling at a lower height.

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Then it still is allowed. Taken directly from the Code:
334.15 Exposed Work.
In exposed work, except as provided in 300.11(A), cable shall be installed as specified in 334.15(A) through (C).
(A) To Follow Surface. Cable shall closely follow the surface of the building finish or of running boards.
(B) Protection from Physical Damage. Cable shall be protected from physical damage where necessary by rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC rigid nonmetallic conduit, or other approved means. Where passing through a floor, the cable shall be enclosed in rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC rigid nonmetallic conduit, or other approved means extending at least 150 mm (6 in.) above the floor.

This tells me if i insert a raceway between the box and fixture and the cable is laid tight against the ceiling (not drooping down) that it is approved. If im wrong feel free to correct me, but as far as im seeing its completely safe and up to code.
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The problem is not the exsposed cable, but the fact you are not going to enter the box in a complaint manner.
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What do you mean by "complaint manner"? I thought the whole arguement here was about the exposed wires!
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What do you mean by "complaint manner"? I thought the whole arguement here was about the exposed wires!
How are you going to get the cable from the fixture to the box in the ceiling?
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How are you going to get the cable from the fixture to the box in the ceiling?

JB..the poster already said in post #14 the romex will be run across the ceiling about 4 inches to the ceiling box
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To the poster...can you please put up a photo that shows:
your fixture, the box and the distance between the two.
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JB..the poster already said in post #14 the romex will be run across the ceiling about 4 inches to the ceiling box
That would then be a violation, unless he used the cover that you posted somewhere back.
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the same way i would if the fixture was attached directly to the box
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the same way i would if the fixture was attached directly to the box
This will be fine,as stated previously. I think people are getting confused between the op and the other poster who thinks they know everything.
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I think people are getting confused between the op and the other poster who thinks they know everything.
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Thanks everyone. Ill stop by Lowes on the way home tonight and pick up a bit of raceway and one of those covers if they have them. Im hoping to be finished with electric by tomorrow night

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