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Old 10-02-2007, 05:08 PM   #16
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dunno what you mean about that adsl stuff, but we run internet off separate wires installed to the coax connections.

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dunno what you mean about that adsl stuff, but we run internet off separate wires installed to the coax connections.
Sorry... if you run it off the coax, then it's cable modem or the like...
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Yeah I think that's what it was called... dunno. It's fast tho!
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:51 PM   #19
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unplug a phone line from a telephone, you see a connector, press your finger against the connector...i.e. basically shorting the phone circuit with your body.... count to 10.... now you are dead... because you just been shocked by the high phone voltage......
The voltage isn't high enough unless it's ringinggggggg......as was already said.
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The biggest danger of such voltages is disruption of heart rhythm when current flows through your body - i.e. from hand to ground or from hand to hand. When it just bites you on the finger, it is unpleasant but harmless.
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Got another question on these!

As I'm installing these, I came across one of those old boxes that's the phone equivalent of a junction box/outlet (or a 3 way switch I think...). It's just got one set of (4) wires going into it, and one set going out.

Is this jack okay to wire it that way? I can't think of any reason why not, in the other one both the in and out sets of wires are done on 4 terminals so it's not differentiating what's making contact.



I'm sure it's fine but just wanna get the okay before punching a hole in that wall to mount it! Here's a pic again of the phone outlet I want to put in:
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The box you came across is called a Biscuit Terminal. You are thinking way too much into the Telephone work. It is Red & Green for Pair 1, and Yellow & Black for Pair 2. It will not hurt you, and unless you have a surge from the Central Office or Remote Terminal , or even a Lightening strike, working on a phone line will not hurt you.

NOw to be safe, if you want to, go outside the house and open the little gray box where your phone line enters and unscrew the phillips head screw, and unplug the RJ-11 connector inside.

If you are still unsure, call an electrician.
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I've been working at a telco for over 10 years... never heard of anyone being killed yet... but to be 100% sure, you can disconnect at the terminal outside the house as suggested. Some of the older homes will still have the terminal posts instead of RJ jacks, so just disconnect the line side coming from the street.
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The box you came across is called a Biscuit Terminal. You are thinking way too much into the Telephone work. It is Red & Green for Pair 1, and Yellow & Black for Pair 2. It will not hurt you, and unless you have a surge from the Central Office or Remote Terminal , or even a Lightening strike, working on a phone line will not hurt you.

NOw to be safe, if you want to, go outside the house and open the little gray box where your phone line enters and unscrew the phillips head screw, and unplug the RJ-11 connector inside.

If you are still unsure, call an electrician.
So it's not red+red on one terminal, and green+green on the other? That's how it was originally wired and what was told to me by someone else, though I dunno how much he actually knew...


About the voltage, I've mentioned that I've already been shocked by it outside since it's disconntected right at the box out there.
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Again, if you do not know what you are doing, hire someone to do it. As for the colors, it is for pair one Red & Green, and for Pair 2 Yellow & Black. What this means, is that Line 1 is on the Red/Green Pair, and that Line 2 is on the Yellow/Black pair. If you connect the wires to their opposite, you are just reversing the pairs.

Red to Red, Green to Green, Yellow to Yellow, Black to black, and so on. Do yourself a favor and pick up Black & Decker's Wiring book, which is 200+ pages on everything wiring.
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joeyboy, you can do this. red and green if one line keep them the same super easy and odds are the shock you felt was from a flash back... old lsd trip. The gov put it in the water years back with floride.
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Again, if you do not know what you are doing, hire someone to do it.
That's the second time you've told me to just call someone to do it - you do realize this site is for people trying to learn right? I don't want to hire a pro because I want to know how to do it, I don't see why you're acting like that.

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joeyboy, you can do this. red and green if one line keep them the same super easy and odds are the shock you felt was from a flash back... old lsd trip. The gov put it in the water years back with floride.
That's what I did, that's the way it was originally wired - the yellow/black were not even connected in the original wiring at that location.

I know with electrical it needs to be a certain type of switch if it's going to multiple places, so I figured there's a chance that could be the case with the phone plug is all. I don't like half-assing the projects I do so I want to make sure I'm doing them right

AND FREE LSD IN THE WATER? Wish I lived here then, that'd be cool! Not that FL hasn't come across like half the population is on drugs anyways, but I digress...
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In the past, when I hook up phones making extension outlet... when not sure which two lines out of the four to be used... I did try by error... sometimes got it right on the first shoot... sometimes got it right after a few failurer attempt... it does a bit annoying but normally get it done within half an hour....

I do believe the two wire is interchangable as long as you pick the two properly....I normally just use the same color to match the same color on the jack... but don't think it makes a difference or burn anything if I reverse them...but not 100% sure about this...
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In the past, when I hook up phones making extension outlet... when not sure which two lines out of the four to be used... I did try by error... sometimes got it right on the first shoot... sometimes got it right after a few failurer attempt... it does a bit annoying but normally get it done within half an hour....

I do believe the two wire is interchangable as long as you pick the two properly....I normally just use the same color to match the same color on the jack... but don't think it makes a difference or burn anything if I reverse them...but not 100% sure about this...
That's what I would've done too, if the line was working. I know my exterior main line is cut and needs to be spliced, so I figured it would make sense to just install the outlets now then splice that, didn't think I'd hit a 'junction' outlet lol!
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so you disconnect the outside lines first before doing inside stuff... that is clean in terms of not getting shock..etc... but how do you test it easily....I wouldn't do that myself.... it is enough complex to have those 4 wires mess around... I would rather install every outlet making sure they work before goes to next one... and the only sure thing it works is the line is alive and put a phone on it... I don't want to go outside and inside hundred times to do that....

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