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Old 11-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #16
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Check your local codes for safe distances between an outlet and water with regard to GFI. In our neck of the woods we can't go any closer than 36 inches unless the outlet is a GFI. If we can't get a GFI outlet in because of space problems then we must use a GFI breaker.

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Just want to ask something. If I put one next to the right edge of the window then that would be less than 4ft. However that is behind the sink. I know I'm not required to put one behind the sink but if I do, will that count?
i believe it would count. in fact, if the distance from the back edge of the sink to the corner is greater than 18", then it is as if the sink isn't even there and you need to maintain the 2' distance all the way around.

just be sure that there isn't a point on the countertop that is more than 2' from a receptacle.
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Check your local codes for safe distances between an outlet and water with regard to GFI. In our neck of the woods we can't go any closer than 36 inches unless the outlet is a GFI. If we can't get a GFI outlet in because of space problems then we must use a GFI breaker.
here in the states, ALL kitchen receptacles that serve the countertop surfaces must be GFCI, regardless of the distance from the sink.
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here in the states, ALL kitchen receptacles that serve the countertop surfaces must be GFCI, regardless of the distance from the sink.
That is how it is in my neck of the woods, same as up at my Brother In-Law up in Lake County. It does not matter where the receptacle is at on the plane of the counter length, it must be GFCI protected.

Now add in the fact that they have tightened up the codes even more with the 2014 cycle, so time for everyone to get all of the electrical done, that you need to, before your area adopts the new code cycle.
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i believe it would count. in fact, if the distance from the back edge of the sink to the corner is greater than 18", then it is as if the sink isn't even there and you need to maintain the 2' distance all the way around.

just be sure that there isn't a point on the countertop that is more than 2' from a receptacle.
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i believe it would count. in fact, if the distance from the back edge of the sink to the corner is greater than 18", then it is as if the sink isn't even there and you need to maintain the 2' distance all the way around.

just be sure that there isn't a point on the countertop that is more than 2' from a receptacle.
The sink to the corner is 17" but if it will count then sweet I may go that route although the outlet spacing will look weird but whatever
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check your local codes for safe distances between an outlet and water with regard to gfi. In our neck of the woods we can't go any closer than 36 inches unless the outlet is a gfi. If we can't get a gfi outlet in because of space problems then we must use a gfi breaker.

6' ......
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i believe it would count. in fact, if the distance from the back edge of the sink to the corner is greater than 18", then it is as if the sink isn't even there and you need to maintain the 2' distance all the way around.

just be sure that there isn't a point on the countertop that is more than 2' from a receptacle.
4' ............. OR 2' ( 24" ) from the edge of the countertop ... or edge of the sink
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maybe a picture is worth a 1000 words ...LOL so here is 2000 ....
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maybe a picture is worth a 1000 words ...LOL so here is 2000 ....
Is that telling me that receptacles behind the sink do not count?
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4' ............. OR 2' ( 24" ) from the edge of the countertop ... or edge of the sink
sorry, should have worded as no point along the wall of the countertop surface be more than 2' from a receptacle, not 2' from anywhere on the countertop.
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that is not my interpretation. if the sink rear edge is within the distances to the wall as indicated in the diagram, you don't need to include that portion of the wall as part of the wall space for spacing receptacles...but you are not prohibited from placing receptacles in the space. i would say if a receptacle is placed in the space, it would count toward the 2' maximum wall distance from a receptacle.
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sorry, should have worded as no point along the wall of the countertop surface be more than 2' from a receptacle, not 2' from anywhere on the countertop.

Which would be CORN fusing ....


KISS theory always works best

2' from edge of the end of the counter and 4' between outlets .....

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