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Old 06-13-2010, 09:10 AM   #1
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OK, NOW I'm confused....
The PACKAGE says for bath and kitchen use, the INSPECTOR says I have to use them, but the DEVICE says........ WHAT????

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Old 06-13-2010, 09:20 AM   #2
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I think the 1st pic is a hair dryer, almost looks like a drill

Ah....you mean the sticker...weird
Are they tamper resistant ?

Outside use must be weather resistant now
I think that is the reason for the sticker

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Outside use must be weather resistant now
I think that is the reason for the sticker
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As soon as I have a little surplus cash, I think I'm going to tear apart a Leviton TR GFCI and WR GFCI. I believe them to be the exact same unit, with different markings and a different price...
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Oh.... well it was just stupid to me, baths and kitchens ARE wet and/or damp areas! LOL
Probably confuses a lot of people.... or at least one....

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Oh.... well it was just stupid to me, baths and kitchens ARE wet and/or damp areas!
Ummm.....no. Not at all.

IN the shower/tub is a wet location, that's about it.
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Location, Wet. Installations underground or in concrete slabs or masonry in direct contact with the earth; in locations subject to saturation with water or other liquids, such as vehicle washing areas; and in unprotected locations exposed to weather.
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Ummm.....no. Not at all.

IN the shower/tub is a wet location, that's about it.
Well, you've never seen the kitchen after MY kids are done "doing dishes"... LOL

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I'm going to tear apart a Leviton TR GFCI and WR GFCI.
And if you're a hobbyist you can use one to sense small current differences to detect and troubleshoot ground faults, rather than buying Fluke's expensive meter made for this purpose.

It helps to get the numbers off the Integrated Circuit inside so you know which IC pin to monitor. Then you just disable the internal relay and you're ready to convert a few mA of differential current into a few volts that you can read on a DVM.

If it uses this IC
http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM1851.pdf
you'd monitor pin 5 or pin 1 shown on Figure 2.

Or, bare bones, just remove the toroid transformer, slide it over a two conductor cable, load the winding down with a resistor and measure its very small voltage output.

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Well, you've never seen the kitchen after MY kids are done "doing dishes"... LOL

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Yeah, you may be right.
I know my bathroom floor is almost always a "wet location".
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Yeah, you may be right.
I know my bathroom floor is almost always a "wet location".
Ya, but if it plumbed with plastic pipe there isn't ground path

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