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Old 11-18-2009, 10:10 AM   #1
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To contract or not to contract, that is the question.


Ok framming is done. Had help with it. I want to do as much myself for cost reasons. But i honesty have only had the DIY attitude recently. I know NOTHING about electrical, but i have purchased at least 3 book on the subject and have been all over the net chat rooms looking as well. Should i honestly wire my 1800 sq foot basment myself, or hire a contractor. I have Roger Germans basment book and a nother one that walks the person through it and have had other guys tell me that it is do-able for a rookie, but if that was true you would see alot more people doing it. So

1) Should I or is it feasable for me to do ALL the electrical myself?
2) Should I just run the outlets and light switches myself and get a contractor to place and run the lights and connect to the box?

Just looking for some honest input here.

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Old 11-18-2009, 10:54 AM   #2
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You could install the wire and then hire a contractor to review your work before any stripping and splicing. You could have them check your work after the slicing is done, before the walls are sealed.

A few things I have seen rookies do:

Staple wire way too tight. (just make it snug)

Not leave enough wire in the boxes. (you need 6" min length per code)

Strip wire back not enough or too much. (no insulation under the screws!)

Not pre twisting wires before adding wirenuts, bad splices. (strip back 1/2", make sure the insulation lines up from where you stripped it, twist wires together with lineman pliers & cut the extra copper off so the ends are flush, twist on nut. Make sure no copper is exposed)

Good luck!


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Old 11-18-2009, 10:55 AM   #3
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Where are you located & are homeowners allowed to do their own work?
Some places aren't -check with building dept
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:28 AM   #4
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Where I am you may have trouble getting an electrician to sign off on work that is not theirs because the regs and inspections are getting so rigid because of bad work done. I cannot blame them. The firm I use will come out and counsel me on my projects. They are so insanely busy they don't scream that I do the basics like running wire and even hooking up an outlet or switch but I usually leave all the connection stuff to them. They are fast and I have never had so much as an inspector blink on one of my projects. Well worth the money. Haven't had an electrical fire either on any restoration.

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Old 11-18-2009, 12:02 PM   #5
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I can't imagine doing rough-in wiring by just reading books. For me seeing someone else do it is how I learn best. Then the books explain the rules.

Is there any new construction around your area where you can go and see the rough wiring?

Or maybe videos? Youtube?

Other than that, I say if it is electrical work which needs doing, I call myself. If I need my engine or transmission rebuilt in my truck, I take it to a mechanic because I don't know what I am doing and would probably mess up the works!
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:01 PM   #6
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the only ones that will tell you not to do it yourself is an electrician. For some reason they thing they are very smart and no one can do what they do. Plumbers seem to fall into this also. I started as an electrician but do every trade for some 25 years now. Residential electrical is very basic. There is nothing you cannot do safely. Post every question no matter how stupid you feel it may be and many will give excellent advise.
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the only ones that will tell you not to do it yourself is an electrician. For some reason they thing they are very smart and no one can do what they do. Plumbers seem to fall into this also. I started as an electrician but do every trade for some 25 years now. Residential electrical is very basic. There is nothing you cannot do safely. Post every question no matter how stupid you feel it may be and many will give excellent advise.
The reason that electricians think only we can do the work is because we see a whole lot of "home owner special" work when we go out for service calls. Most of the bad stuff is done without inspection and jury-rigged with whatever material in on hand.

A licensed and well trained electrician will know the local rules and regulations, will have the right tools and materials for the job and will do the job in timely fashion so you can button up the walls and finish.
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It's not so much as "you can't do it" it's more like "why would you spend the time?"

It aint rocket science but the learning curve is pretty substantial. You might dick around for WEEKS and still not end up with a good job. A good electrician will have it roughed in in a day or two and you can do what you do best. When it's time for trim it will be done in a day.


Work is slow. Get some estimates. You may be surprised at how little some contractors are charging.

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