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Old 10-01-2012, 01:41 PM   #16
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OP - pull the permit. It's better to be safe than sorry and this way you CYA.
sdsester, as a licensed electrician who does mostly residential wiring with romex, I shudder every time I think about wiring in/near Chicagoland. My brain hurts just trying to think about wiring a house in pipe...

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I also vote for getting a permit. Assuming it would cost around 60-70 bucks (wires, boxes, cover plates, staples, etc.), my electrical permit would be around 10-15 bucks.

You would also get a validation from a professional inspector that your work was done properly.

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Agree pulling new circuit is something that even professionals consider major…just pull a permit and avoid any problems down the line.
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I hope they didn't wait almost 2 years to decide to get the permit.
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If you are worried your work will not pass inspection, then all the more reason to get a permit! Think about that...
If I couldn't do something as simple as installation of a new circuit like the OP wants without worrying if it would pass code, I wouldn't do DIY at all. A few minutes with the right book and almost anybody would know enough to do it safely. I surely wouldn't get a permit for a job like that.
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:23 PM   #20
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Depends on how risk adverse you are. Around here no one would get a permit for something like that.

I just had a small addition put on. The contractor got a permit because I insisted on it, but he assured me it wasn't necessary. The inspector said he was glad to do it, but agreed it wasn't necessary.

But in the nearby city, I know buildings have actually been demolished because they were built without proper permits.

I am going to guess that San Jose is closer to the city than it is to my town.

Interestingly, when I sold my house last year the buyer did not check the boxes making it contingent on proper permits being on file; so go figure.
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Interestingly, when I sold my house last year the buyer did not check the boxes making it contingent on proper permits being on file; so go figure.
Really? Over the years I've bought and sold probably a dozen houses and have never seen anything like that contingency on any contract.
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Sellers disclosure form in CT requires the seller to disclose if any unapproved or un permitted repairs or renovations etc. were made to the property. If a buyer subsequently discovers that the seller failed to disclose this and the seller knew and indeed if the seller makes any other false representations on the disclosure form, the buyer can walk and terminate the contract.
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Around here its hard enough to wait around for a job that needs to be permitted/inspected,If we had to pull a permit for every simple service call like adding a circuit nothing would ever get done!
Generally the basic rule is a job costing $500.00 or more requires a permit around here.
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One of the consequences is that your village, town, city...etc. will have no record of any improvements you make. This will affect the value of your home at tax time and unfortunately at resale time as well. When you try to sell the home there could be issues which may hamper the sale and cost you retroactively. At that point you are at the mercy of the municipality. (for the most part this will not occur...but it certainly is possible)
One branch circuit? Hardly, no one would know one way or the other.
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Around here its hard enough to wait around for a job that needs to be permitted/inspected,If we had to pull a permit for every simple service call like adding a circuit nothing would ever get done!
Generally the basic rule is a job costing $500.00 or more requires a permit around here.
Around here with time involved it can cost up to and over 500.00, just for the permit and time spent at the county office.
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One branch circuit? Hardly, no one would know one way or the other.
Town over.

House was to be sold.

Knob and tube needed to be removed and that circuit fed a new.

Inspector found out and went in with a $2300 fine.

The realtor knew the mayor who know someone and inspector.

I think the fine went to $500 the wiring was finished and the house was sold.
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I can fax in electrical and plumbing permits,that part isn't a big deal.
Its the waiting for days for them to process it on their end,then having to wait more than a week sometimes for a rough in inspection during busy times of year that really sucks!
Theyre supposed to have 48hrs to inspect from the time you call for it,but it doesn't always work out that way.
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Town over.

House was to be sold.

Knob and tube needed to be removed and that circuit fed a new.

Inspector found out and went in with a $2300 fine.

The realtor knew the mayor who know someone and inspector.

I think the fine went to $500 the wiring was finished and the house was sold.
Neo Nazi inspector,The fact that the fine was dropped with a phone call tells me hes one of the good ol boys.
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Sellers disclosure form in CT requires the seller to disclose if any unapproved or un permitted repairs or renovations etc. were made to the property. If a buyer subsequently discovers that the seller failed to disclose this and the seller knew and indeed if the seller makes any other false representations on the disclosure form, the buyer can walk and terminate the contract.
Prior to removing the inspection contingency the buyer can walk for any reason.
Subsequent to removing the inspection contingency the buyer isn't likely to discover any false representations.
So I don't see how anything is changed. Unless the failure to disclose has consequences after closing.
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Unless the failure to disclose has consequences after closing.
If the seller does not disclose something that ends up costing buyer money further down the line, then the seller can be sued and will lose.

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