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Old 08-17-2012, 07:32 PM   #1
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Per my prints....

PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE 20 AMP BRANCH CIRCUIT TO SUPPLY BATHROOM
RECEPTACLE OUTLETS. SUCH CIRCUIT SHALL HAVE NO OTHER OUTLETS. (CEC210.11(C)(3))

But then the thread in this section on the NEC says this....

210.50 Required Branch circuits
14g wire is rated for 15a, 12g wire is rated for 20a
15a outlets ONLY on a 15a circuit
15a/20a are allowed on a 20a circuit
A single 15a receptacle is not allowed on a 20a circuit
AFCI protection is required almost every where under NEC 2008
Exceptions are GFCI required: bathrooms, kitchens, laundry (GFCI if sink within 6' of receptacle), garage & outside circuits

Bathroom requires a dedicated 20a GFCI protected circuit that can serve outlets in multiple bathrooms
OR
Outlets & Lights in One bathroom

I take the verbiage on my prints to mean that nothing else can be on that outlet.....but, the above section says it's ok.



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Per my prints....

PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE 20 AMP BRANCH CIRCUIT TO SUPPLY BATHROOM
RECEPTACLE OUTLETS. SUCH CIRCUIT SHALL HAVE NO OTHER OUTLETS. (CEC210.11(C)(3))


But then the thread in this section on the NEC says this....

210.50 Required Branch circuits
14g wire is rated for 15a, 12g wire is rated for 20a
15a outlets ONLY on a 15a circuit
15a/20a are allowed on a 20a circuit
A single 15a receptacle is not allowed on a 20a circuit
AFCI protection is required almost every where under NEC 2008
Exceptions are GFCI required: bathrooms, kitchens, laundry (GFCI if sink within 6' of receptacle), garage & outside circuits

Bathroom requires a dedicated 20a GFCI protected circuit that can serve outlets in multiple bathrooms
OR
Outlets & Lights in One bathroom

I take the verbiage on my prints to mean that nothing else can be on that outlet.....but, the above section says it's ok.


no other outlets ( other than the aforementioned bathroom outlets, whether in one or multiple bathrooms)

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Per my prints....

PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE 20 AMP BRANCH CIRCUIT TO SUPPLY BATHROOM
RECEPTACLE OUTLETS. SUCH CIRCUIT SHALL HAVE NO OTHER OUTLETS. (CEC210.11(C)(3))


But then the thread in this section on the NEC says this....

210.50 Required Branch circuits
14g wire is rated for 15a, 12g wire is rated for 20a
15a outlets ONLY on a 15a circuit
15a/20a are allowed on a 20a circuit
A single 15a receptacle is not allowed on a 20a circuit
AFCI protection is required almost every where under NEC 2008
Exceptions are GFCI required: bathrooms, kitchens, laundry (GFCI if sink within 6' of receptacle), garage & outside circuits

Bathroom requires a dedicated 20a GFCI protected circuit that can serve outlets in multiple bathrooms
OR
Outlets & Lights in One bathroom

I take the verbiage on my prints to mean that nothing else can be on that outlet.....but, the above section says it's ok.


You have two options:

1. Run one 20A GFI circuit to all bathrooms. Nothing else is permitted on this circuit. Or;

2. Run a 20A circuit to each bathroom. The circuit is permitted to supply everything in the bathroom, but is not allowed to leave the room. This can be done for each bathroom.
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You quoted the cec(California electrical code I think). They could have modified that section of the NEC for the CEC. Also the designer can spec certain things he wants that are above the code which a dedicated receptacle in a bathroom is.
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You have two options:

1. Run one 20A GFI circuit to all bathrooms receptacles. Nothing else is permitted on this circuit. Or;

2. Run a 20A circuit to each bathroom. The circuit is permitted to supply everything in the bathroom, but is not allowed to leave the room. This can be done for each bathroom.
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20 amp circuit, supplying ONE bathroom receptacle and other outlets within that single bathroom.





20 amp circuit supplying multiple bathroom RECEPTACLES only.

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Ok....each bathroom will have it's own dedicated ckt....

In the master bath I am actually going to have 3 'recepticals' on the ckt......the I'm sure my wife will only be using one of the 3 at a time....I certainly won't...I don't have enough hair to dry....
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Would the code permit a receptacle in a closet off the bathroom? For example, our master closet as a receptacle that is on the same circuit as the bathroom. The door to the closet opens only from the bathroom.

And yes, that receptacle is quite handy.
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Would the code permit a receptacle in a closet off the bathroom? For example, our master closet as a receptacle that is on the same circuit as the bathroom. The door to the closet opens only from the bathroom.

And yes, that receptacle is quite handy.
I don't have a problem with it, but I'm sure anyone could debate anything.
Meaning, the closet isn't a bath room so not allowed.
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I have a walk in closet adjacent to what will be the bathroom vanities.....I have an outlet in there but I'm running that off a different ckt....

I'm adding a laundry room....the washer and dryer will have their own 20 outlet.....I have a second outlet on the wall (different 20a ckt)...in case the wife wants to run the iron while clothes are being washed....I then branched off that outlet to one upstairs on our balcony and then over to the walk in closet....

When I'm doing the load calcs on my outlets/recepticals...(what ever you want to call them this week), I look at what could be running at the same time...I dobt my wife would be upstairs vacuuming while ironing downstairs......lord knows my kids won't be doing any of that....can't get them away from the Wii....

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