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Old 04-24-2013, 11:55 AM   #16
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The NEC does not have a rule that requires the receptacle or switch to be 3' away from the tub or shower.

Considering the 6' cord that most appliances have even a receptacle 3' away would still allow it to reach into the tub or shower area. How would 3' away make this any safer than the one 1/32" outside the footprint?
Because if there is nothing plugged into the socket, and say you reach out, and want to plug something in, while standing in the shower or tub, with water in it, at around 3 feet, it is hard to reach, unless of course, you step out, and have one foot in and one out, then yes you could touch the outlet at three feet. That is a different story.

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there is not code about how far from the tub it needs to be ....

but the "hydro-tub" need GFI to run it ... then all the code for bathrooms for switch and outlets ..

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bathroom switch outlets ... 404.4
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there is not code about how far from the tub it needs to be ....

but the "hydro-tub" need GFI to run it ... then all the code for bathrooms for switch and outlets ..

680.70

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You may want to recheck your info. In most places, the outlets cannot be within 3 feet of a tub or shower, but as for the sink basins, within 3 feet, or in most cases, above the counter, to the left or right of it.

And as they always say, you can never have too many outlets.
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Think about it Jim. What is the farthest distance that a person standing in the footprint of the tub or shower can reach? It is at most three feet.
Common sense rules on this one if you actually use it.

The three foot rule came from actually knowing that at the farthest a person can reach while standing in the shower or tub is three feet.
BWahhh...... was this in your handbook?
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You may want to recheck your info. In most places, the outlets cannot be within 3 feet of a tub or shower, but as for the sink basins, within 3 feet, or in most cases, above the counter, to the left or right of it.

And as they always say, you can never have too many outlets.
Would you be so kind as to define 'most places'?
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You may want to recheck your info. In most places, the outlets cannot be within 3 feet of a tub or shower,
There is no limit of how close a GFI protected receptacle can be to the footprint of the tub/shower according to the NEC. It just can't be within the footprint.
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Water on hand + water into socket = problem. Would be my guess. But then there isnt always a ton of logic in code, there is often some though.
I think the real issue is some peoples own logic when dealing with the NEC...
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Seriously, it really is THIS easy.

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You may want to recheck your info. In most places, the outlets cannot be within 3 feet of a tub or shower,
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Please provide a code cite for this or stop with the incorrect information.
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To be fair, that second pic is incorrect. The receptacle would have to be within 12" of the top of the sink or counter top for it to satisfy the bathroom receptacle requirement.

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(D) Bathrooms. In dwelling units, at least one receptacle
outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900 mm (3 ft)
of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet
shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the
basin or basin countertop, located on the countertop, or
installed on the side or face of the basin cabinet not more
than 300 mm (12 in.) below the countertop. Receptacle
outlet assemblies listed for the application shall be permitted
to be installed in the countertop.
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After rereading the code and looking at the diagram, it appears that I am wrong and the diagram is correct. However, I will say that it doesn't make much sense that you would have to stay within 12" if mounted in the cabinet, but if you are in the wall, you could go as low as you want.

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To be fair, that second pic is incorrect. The receptacle would have to be within 12" of the top of the sink or counter top for it to satisfy the bathroom receptacle requirement.
thats only if it is installed in a cabinet...
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thats only if it is installed in a cabinet...
I scolded myself before you could correct me...
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I scolded myself before you could correct me...
I saw that, and concur with the odd ball restrictions with cabinet vs wall space, but probably intended to be consistent with kitchen island counter restrictions. It simply relieves the argument from one area to the other.
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This must be where some of the other regulars get their code info from... lol, this web site is ridiculous...


http://www.ashireporter.org/HomeInsp...-Switches/2377

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