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Old 04-24-2013, 12:21 AM   #1
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Where can i place a GFI outlet in bathroom with a shower without tub?

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Basically, anywhere as long as it's not in the shower.

'Most' people put them above and to the side of the sink....with the assumption that your going to plug a hair dryer in it.

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wassnt sure if u had to keep it away from toilet side of sink
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You can put as many as you like in the bathroom, but one needs to be within 3' of the edge of the sink.
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can only be put on the 3 wall s that the sink touches ....

NEC 210.52(D) - Required bathroom receptacles in dwellings:

A GFCI receptacle is required to be located within 3 feet or less from the outside edge of each basin; located in a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop; or installed on the side or face of the basin cabinet not more than 12" below the countertop.
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That is the required receptacle. It does not prohibit receptacles in other locations.
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Where can i place a GFI outlet in bathroom with a shower without tub?
Stand in the tub and shower, and reach out of the tub or shower area. The point where the end of your finger tips reach, you should not be able to touch the outlet. For kids, it will be more, since their arms are shorter, same as though of smaller stature.

Basically 3 feet is the min. The best place to place the outlets, is the left of the sink basin, the right of the sink basin, and one on the wall opposite of the toilet. As they say, you can never have too many outlets where you need them.
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to the right of the sink i have the toilet to the left of the sink i have a standup shower
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Stand in the tub and shower, and reach out of the tub or shower area. The point where the end of your finger tips reach, you should not be able to touch the outlet. For kids, it will be more, since their arms are shorter, same as though of smaller stature.
This is not according to the NEC. All you need to be is outside the footprint of the tub or shower.

http://www.mikeholt.com/reprint_request2000.php?id=3032

Showing the 3' zone:

http://www.mikeholt.com/reprint_request2000.php?id=1257
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This is not according to the NEC. All you need to be is outside the footprint of the tub or shower.

http://www.mikeholt.com/reprint_request2000.php?id=3032

Showing the 3' zone:

http://www.mikeholt.com/reprint_request2000.php?id=1257
Think about it Jim. What is the farthest distance that a person standing in the footprint of the tub or shower can reach? It is at most three feet.
Common sense rules on this one if you actually use it.

The three foot rule came from actually knowing that at the farthest a person can reach while standing in the shower or tub is three feet.
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The receptacle has to be within 3' of the sink regardless of how close it is to the shower. Just can't be in the shower.
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The NEC does not have a rule that requires the receptacle or switch to be 3' away from the tub or shower.

Considering the 6' cord that most appliances have even a receptacle 3' away would still allow it to reach into the tub or shower area. How would 3' away make this any safer than the one 1/32" outside the footprint?
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The NEC does not have a rule that requires the receptacle or switch to be 3' away from the tub or shower.

Considering the 6' cord that most appliances have even a receptacle 3' away would still allow it to reach into the tub or shower area. How would 3' away make this any safer than the one 1/32" outside the footprint?
Water on hand + water into socket = problem. Would be my guess. But then there isnt always a ton of logic in code, there is often some though.
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We have rules and we have common sense.....sometimes the rules are not inclusive of common sense....

The rules do not prevent someone from installing a toilet roll holder in the shower.....but common sense implies that you would end up with wet poop paper.....

While the rules may not prevent an outlet from being within 3' of a tub....common sense would suggest that 3' is a good minimum....

Case in point.....about 10 years ago when I was redoing my electrical...we installed a Jacuzzi tub in the bathroom....I had a GFIC about 1' from the tub for the motor....inspector made we swap it out with a blind front GFIC (no sockets)

So I'm guessing that there is no real rule that says this one had to be a blind front...but common sense suggests that it was a pretty good idea?
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Dawg, I bet the reason was so you could not use the circuit for the tub by plugging something else in.
It is not uncommon to see dead front gfci's used like that all the time.

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