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Old 03-04-2013, 10:31 PM   #31
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Also after your first disconnect you have to run a four wire feed to the rest of the structures.

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Also after your first disconnect you have to run a four wire feed to the rest of the structures.
And we're back to the original issue. The POCO installed the feeders which are utilized after the first disconnect.
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No inspection occurred because I assume the inspector simply wants the permit money. Its in a rural location but it is incorporated into the town limits. Maybe he is lazy? I don't know...he is more than welcome to come inspect...he just doesn't do it. Write a check...get a permit filed...do the work. Small town culture.
The inspector has to sign off on the permit when you have completed the job including any rework for deficiencies the inspector might have pointed out, after which time the insurance company cannot deny a claim because work was not done to code.
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The inspector has to sign off on the permit when you have completed the job including any rework for deficiencies the inspector might have pointed out, after which time the insurance company cannot deny a claim because work was not done to code.
He is the AHJ. You think I'm going to tell him what he has to do and when he has to do it?
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He is the AHJ. You think I'm going to tell him what he has to do and when he has to do it?
I doubt he is the AHJ, most if not all inspectors, are NOT the AHJ.
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And we're back to the original issue. The POCO installed the feeders which are utilized after the first disconnect.
I missed this fact, I was under the impression you ran the feeder after the disconnect, and the utility only ran the conductors supplying the meter...
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I doubt he is the AHJ, most if not all inspectors, are NOT the AHJ.
So who would be the AHJ in this situation?
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I doubt he is the AHJ, most if not all inspectors, are NOT the AHJ.
Please explain.
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He is the AHJ. You think I'm going to tell him what he has to do and when he has to do it?
You mean he customarily signs off on it before you are done? Since you inquired on this forum you learned what the correct materials and methods are.
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You mean he customarily signs off on it before you are done?
I don't know if an inspector exists. I do know a permitter exists. Permits are required to be purchased. Once the permit is purchased and issued, you can do the work.

Some might call it a tax.
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Please explain.
Its very simple, most inspectors are not the AHJ, in the state of Connecticut, every town has a hired official to inspect electrical work, they are NOT the AHJ, they must either pass or fail the job being to code per the NEC... they may think they have power over the NEC, but its just a god complex.... the AHJ in connecticut is actually the State electrical inspector, but even that could probably be fought since its just a job title....
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It is my understanding that the NEC has zero authority, unless it is adopted by some legally governing body. The individual representing the governing body, as well as the governing body, would be the AHJ.

If the governing body elects to NOT use the NEC as a basis for electrical installation compliance, then the NEC is meaningless in that area governed by that body.
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It is my understanding that the NEC has zero authority, unless it is adopted by some legally governing body. The individual representing the governing body, as well as the governing body, would be the AHJ.
It's a very confusing topic, thats why I say the inspector is probably not the AHJ...
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It's a very confusing topic, thats why I say the inspector is probably not the AHJ...
I'm not confused. If I perform work without securing a permit from the code enforcement division identified by the town council then I have violated a town ordinance, which could subject me to legal actions, fines, discipline, et cetera. The town council has identified an individual as an issuer of permits. Perhaps the permit dude is an inspector also. Either way, the permit dude represents the authority which has jurisdiction over my actions. If the town council is required to adopt codes or standards because of county or state level regulations then that is the council's business.

All I know is that the code enforcement division of the town government requires a permit from this dude, so therefore he is, or represents the AHJ.

I suppose its like line side versus load side...it's all relative to your location.

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I'm not confused. If I perform work without securing a permit from the code enforcement division identified by the town council then I have violated a town ordinance, which could subject me to legal actions, fines, discipline, et cetera. The town council has identified an individual as an issuer of permits. Perhaps the permit dude is an inspector also. Either way, the permit dude represents the authority which has jurisdiction over my actions. If the town council is required to adopt codes or standards because of county or state level regulations then that is the council's business.

All I know is that the code enforcement division of the town government requires a permit from this dude, so therefore he is, or represents the AHJ.

I suppose its like line side versus load side...it's all relative to your location.
The permit dude or the inspector dude does not make him/her the AHJ... just saying... its just their job to inspect electrical installations...

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