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billman5000 11-28-2012 07:18 PM

Code question - Romex in garage
 
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Hi, got a typical homeowner situation ->

1) Is the use of Romex in the two pictures, permitted under the electrical code ?

2) From what I've read this is not up to code, so - could I replace it with armored cable ? "MC", or what is commonly and incorrectly called "BX".

Thanks !

stickboy1375 11-28-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by billman5000 (Post 1062648)
Hi, got a typical homeowner situation ->

1) Is the use of Romex in the two pictures, permitted under the electrical code ?

2) From what I've read this is not up to code, so - could I replace it with armored cable ? "MC", or what is commonly and incorrectly called "BX".

Thanks !

I see no violations.

electures 11-28-2012 07:26 PM

What year NEC was it wired/inspected under? The receptacles in garages may need GFI protection depending on when it was wired and location. Where do you live?

billman5000 11-28-2012 07:32 PM

electures: The house is in Indiana, it was built in 1950, and I bought it a few years ago. The wire in the pictures was probably done in the last decade or so. I never thought about it until today.

electures 11-28-2012 07:37 PM

Until recently romex was not permitted in a detached garage. SO it appears that at the time the wiring was installed it may have been a violation if the garage is detached. Under the 2011 NEC romex is permitted in a detached garage. If the garage is attached to the dwelling then the point is mute. However, GFI protection of receptacles in a garage is required barring local amendments.

gregzoll 11-28-2012 08:12 PM

The Romex, I would protect in the Romex going down the wall in Conduit. Unless your local AHJ states otherwise, and the work is in good workmanship and code compliant, get on to the next project.

billman5000 11-29-2012 09:26 AM

Garage is attached. Thank you for the info !

electures 11-29-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by billman5000
Garage is attached. Thank you for the info !

Now it is safe to say it looks compliant. Is the receptacle GFI protected?

billman5000 11-29-2012 03:40 PM

IIRC nothing in the garage has GFI....I wlil add that to the list.

Oso954 11-29-2012 03:54 PM

When you replace the outlet with the GFCI, get a smaller coverplate that fits your box. The corners of those plastic plates extending beyond the box are a hazard. (Tears clothes or skin)
I might even go to the trouble of rounding down the corners of the existing plate, until I got around to getting to the GFCI,

AndyGump 11-29-2012 05:56 PM

Wow, interesting. Here in CA. if the inspector saw either of those two situations he might try to have me drawn and quartered, then have my bollocks cut off.
In the first picture, unless the Romex was above 8 feet high it would have to be MC cable.
The Romex in the second picture would surely get me a failure in inspection. Would need to be in conduit or armored cable.

Andy.

k_buz 11-29-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyGump (Post 1063209)
Wow, interesting. Here in CA. if the inspector saw either of those two situations he might try to have me drawn and quartered, then have my bollocks cut off.
In the first picture, unless the Romex was above 8 feet high it would have to be MC cable.
The Romex in the second picture would surely get me a failure in inspection. Would need to be in conduit or armored cable.

Andy.

MC offers no more protection than romex...at least in the eyes of the NEC. Both need to be protected from physical damage. Neither picture would pass inspection around here.


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