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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Code question
Im wiring up an addition I just did and need to know about lighting and outlets circuits.
2 bedrooms 1 hallway Recessed lights in those 3 areas What has to be arc fault or gfci? Thx! |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WV
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Depends on code where you live. In some places (like where I live), AFCIs are required only for bedroom circuits. In others following a newer version of the code, they are required in every occupied area of the house. You should check with your local building department.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Welland, Ontario
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Code question
Since you didn't post a location I will give you the Canadian version.
In Canada only the bedroom receptacles need to be AFCI. The smokes must NOT be AFCI. Nothing listed needs to be GFCI.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Code question
Sorry, Los Angeles Ca
Does the lighting need anything? |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MA
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It depends upon what code revision you are on. The LA County website says it is based upon the 2010 California and 2008 National Electric Codes.
In 2008 NEC requires AFCI breakers in: "210.12(b) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sun rooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit." So, it looks like they all need to be AFCI, but check with your local AHJ. Yes, it includes the lighting. Last edited by AandPDan; 11-28-2011 at 07:34 PM. Reason: Add lighting |
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Residential Designer
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Code question
AFCI on all, I am suspicious of Dan's contention of the requirement on the lighting circuits. I will check this out to be sure. Lights are not outlets.
Andy. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MA
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Code question
Yes the lights, and even the smoke detectors, need to be AFCI protected, 2008 NEC.
Check out the definition of an "outlet." Outlet. A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment. It may vary where you live. |
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Residential Designer
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So a light fixture is utilization equipment?
Andy. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MA
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Yes. It is if you want light.
The NEC would have stated "receptacles" if they meant anything else. |
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Electrician
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Near Jackson Michigan Area
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Code question
Correct. A receptacle is a receptacle (more specifically, a device), an outlet is an outlet. They are not the same, though it’s been common for many years to call a receptacle an outlet. One of those situations where you have to clarify what someone is saying versus what they are meaning.
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Licensed electrician
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
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Code question
A smoke detector also qualifies as an outlet under the NEC defintions that has already been provided above.
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