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Old 03-19-2012, 08:12 PM   #1
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Builder decided to run wire the shortest route possible. So now when finishing a basement I can either rewire or Im wondering if nail plates will be accepted. Below are two photos of two areas that are in question. The third photo is what Im thinking is the fix. Would the fix be accepted?
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Nail plates will not help here.
You are going to have to reroute those wires.
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That looks like a lvl beam....

This is a link that shows where you can drill holes

http://homeremodelersstore.com/web_a...ling%20lam.pdf
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Why is there what looks like untreated 4 X 4's that do not even make contact with the LVL's.
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Why is there what looks like untreated 4 X 4's that do not even make contact with the LVL's.
Those are actually 2x2. I would like to see some more pictures of this improper build.
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Either reroute the wires or frame around them so proper clearances are maintained.
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Are those wires wedged between that beam and the twigs holding it up?
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It appears the beam is resting on the 2x4 wall and that the 2x2's are being used as furring strips and bear no load. Slipping the wires in that gap will not be a problem IF proper measures are taken to protect the wire.
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This is one of those things where you have two large structural beams and it's too hard to tell from a picture the best way to route or drill. I have never seen an installer do something quite like that with wire routing. I would check out ddawg16's document and make sure it applies to what you have and make sure you measure many times before doing anything.

How high is the beam and how high are you looking for in a finished ceiling?
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How high is the beam and how high are you looking for in a finished ceiling?
If the beam is high enough, you could attach another 2x2 (or 2x4) to the BOTTOM of the LVL to use as a drywall nailer. If you attach the ceiling to the bottom of that attached 2x2, it would bring your drywall and ceiling below those wires. (assuming it's OK to attach wood to the bottom of the LVL)

Not sure if that's code compliant, and not sure if that would adequately protect those wires without plates, etc.

Might be faster and easier to reroute.
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to answer the questions. it is properly framed. the 2x2 are there to fur out the wall so I can run the wires thru a 2x2 with a nail protection plate. being that I cant drill thru the 2x4 as the lvl rest on it.
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