Code & Nail Plate & Wire On Face - Electrical - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-19-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 21
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Builder decided to run wire the shortest route possible. So now when finishing a basement I can either rewire or Im wondering if nail plates will be accepted. Below are two photos of two areas that are in question. The third photo is what Im thinking is the fix. Would the fix be accepted?
Attached Thumbnails
Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face-wire-1.jpg   Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face-wire-2.jpg   Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face-wire-protection.jpg  

Advertisement

casnj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2012, 09:17 PM   #2
Electrical Contractor
 
jbfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Newnan GA
Posts: 5,959
Rewards Points: 2,314
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Nail plates will not help here.
You are going to have to reroute those wires.

Advertisement

__________________
Yes I am a Pirate, 200 years too late. "Jimmy Buffett"
jbfan is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jbfan For This Useful Post:
gregzoll (03-20-2012), Julius793 (03-19-2012)
Old 03-20-2012, 01:37 AM   #3
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,651
Rewards Points: 2,616
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


That looks like a lvl beam....

This is a link that shows where you can drill holes

http://homeremodelersstore.com/web_a...ling%20lam.pdf
__________________
Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there.

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 01:56 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 27,747
Rewards Points: 610
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Why is there what looks like untreated 4 X 4's that do not even make contact with the LVL's.
joecaption is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 08:10 AM   #5
Retired from the grind
 
gregzoll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Midwest - Central Illinois
Posts: 14,400
Rewards Points: 2,462
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Why is there what looks like untreated 4 X 4's that do not even make contact with the LVL's.
Those are actually 2x2. I would like to see some more pictures of this improper build.
__________________
Ren: Now listen, Cadet. I've got a job for you. See this button? Ren: Don't touch it! It's the History Eraser button, you fool! Stimpy: So what'll happen? Ren: That's just it. We don't know. Maybe something bad, maybe something good. I guess we'll never know, 'cause you're going to guard it. You won't touch it, will you?
gregzoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #6
Licensed Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SC
Posts: 1,545
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Either reroute the wires or frame around them so proper clearances are maintained.
__________________
"Life is hard. Life is harder when you're stupid." John Wayne
HouseHelper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 10:03 AM   #7
Electrical Contractor
 
rrolleston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Granville, NY
Posts: 1,941
Rewards Points: 1,000
Send a message via AIM to rrolleston Send a message via Yahoo to rrolleston
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Are those wires wedged between that beam and the twigs holding it up?
__________________
With Electricity there is the right way to do it and the dead way. Just because it works does not make it safe.
rrolleston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 10:28 AM   #8
Licensed Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SC
Posts: 1,545
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


It appears the beam is resting on the 2x4 wall and that the 2x2's are being used as furring strips and bear no load. Slipping the wires in that gap will not be a problem IF proper measures are taken to protect the wire.
__________________
"Life is hard. Life is harder when you're stupid." John Wayne
HouseHelper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 10:48 AM   #9
Electrical Contractor
 
rrolleston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Granville, NY
Posts: 1,941
Rewards Points: 1,000
Send a message via AIM to rrolleston Send a message via Yahoo to rrolleston
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


This is one of those things where you have two large structural beams and it's too hard to tell from a picture the best way to route or drill. I have never seen an installer do something quite like that with wire routing. I would check out ddawg16's document and make sure it applies to what you have and make sure you measure many times before doing anything.

How high is the beam and how high are you looking for in a finished ceiling?
__________________
With Electricity there is the right way to do it and the dead way. Just because it works does not make it safe.

Last edited by rrolleston; 03-20-2012 at 10:54 AM. Reason: more info
rrolleston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 05:11 PM   #10
Just a DIY guy
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 297
Rewards Points: 250
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


Quote:
Originally Posted by rrolleston View Post
How high is the beam and how high are you looking for in a finished ceiling?
If the beam is high enough, you could attach another 2x2 (or 2x4) to the BOTTOM of the LVL to use as a drywall nailer. If you attach the ceiling to the bottom of that attached 2x2, it would bring your drywall and ceiling below those wires. (assuming it's OK to attach wood to the bottom of the LVL)

Not sure if that's code compliant, and not sure if that would adequately protect those wires without plates, etc.

Might be faster and easier to reroute.
M3 Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 02:56 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 21
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Code & Nail Plate & Wire on Face


to answer the questions. it is properly framed. the 2x2 are there to fur out the wall so I can run the wires thru a 2x2 with a nail protection plate. being that I cant drill thru the 2x4 as the lvl rest on it.

Advertisement

casnj is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Router Mortising Kit for Door Face Plate GeauxCajuns82 Carpentry 9 02-16-2011 12:08 AM
240v conduit with different gauge wires... Biospot Electrical 7 12-14-2010 08:07 PM
conduit for infloor heating (from floor / plate up to t-stat box) rtoni Electrical 8 12-09-2010 01:25 AM
wood framing-screws or nails? ron0805 Carpentry 8 10-15-2009 11:20 PM
Getting shocked by face plate screws vogtage83 Electrical 21 12-04-2007 12:55 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts