Hello to all. We are renovating our basement which is our first big project to the home we are in now.
We have almost completed the framing in the basement which we have done with steel studs. We are now working on the rough in of the electrical and our last short wall before our insulator contractor comes in to spay in the foam.
We are looking for some help with the Canadian electrical code as we are having issues with the inspector and what he would like us to comply to.
They are not being very descriptive of what they want, which I think is done more to make you think that you are incapable of doing the work yourself, so when you ask them a question they have tended to evade any sort on concrete answer.
Basically we are trying to not only meet code, but also to exceed it in that the work will meet new code requirements down the road not leaving us with some expensive fix should we need to make changes down the road. IE running more breakers than actually needed as we have the pannel space to do so.
One issue is partly due to the foam insulation. As they are exterior walls they want us to use vapor barrier cups, even though the spray foam acts as its own vapor barrier. Foam is not commonly seen in homes here yet, but is just starting to become something people are considering using due to our climate. Because of this inspectors here know very little about how this fits in with the code of the day which deals with either rigid board, or batt insulation both of which still require the vapor cups on exterior walls.
Here is the issue. Steel studs require us to use specific metal boxes which have a long ear at the back that must hit the wall for stability. They don't fit into the cups worth a darn unless you place a small slit in the back to accomodate this, which in the means of a vapor barrier defeats the purpose completely.
How do we keep them happy in this scenario.
Next issue is the wires are all run on stand offs to act as the bracing that the staple would provide on the wood stud. (which can't be done on the steel) Code in Canada states that the wire can not be run parallel or on the steel stud. They must be either run on a small piece of wood attached to the stud, or run with stand offs. We chose the stand offs as it is much easier and economical.
Our question is what distance of wire should be left between the stand off point at 8" from the box and the box itself. Should it be 10" before it runs into the box, or 12"? We can't seem to get any specific answer. All they tell us it that it must have a gentle curve with some excess wire.
What purpose does this extra wire serve? We have noticed that in the US or at least in books published in the US they don't have to leave this at all.
We are just looking to do things right the first time round.
Thanks in advance for any answers you can give us.
We have almost completed the framing in the basement which we have done with steel studs. We are now working on the rough in of the electrical and our last short wall before our insulator contractor comes in to spay in the foam.
We are looking for some help with the Canadian electrical code as we are having issues with the inspector and what he would like us to comply to.
They are not being very descriptive of what they want, which I think is done more to make you think that you are incapable of doing the work yourself, so when you ask them a question they have tended to evade any sort on concrete answer.
Basically we are trying to not only meet code, but also to exceed it in that the work will meet new code requirements down the road not leaving us with some expensive fix should we need to make changes down the road. IE running more breakers than actually needed as we have the pannel space to do so.
One issue is partly due to the foam insulation. As they are exterior walls they want us to use vapor barrier cups, even though the spray foam acts as its own vapor barrier. Foam is not commonly seen in homes here yet, but is just starting to become something people are considering using due to our climate. Because of this inspectors here know very little about how this fits in with the code of the day which deals with either rigid board, or batt insulation both of which still require the vapor cups on exterior walls.
Here is the issue. Steel studs require us to use specific metal boxes which have a long ear at the back that must hit the wall for stability. They don't fit into the cups worth a darn unless you place a small slit in the back to accomodate this, which in the means of a vapor barrier defeats the purpose completely.
How do we keep them happy in this scenario.
Next issue is the wires are all run on stand offs to act as the bracing that the staple would provide on the wood stud. (which can't be done on the steel) Code in Canada states that the wire can not be run parallel or on the steel stud. They must be either run on a small piece of wood attached to the stud, or run with stand offs. We chose the stand offs as it is much easier and economical.
Our question is what distance of wire should be left between the stand off point at 8" from the box and the box itself. Should it be 10" before it runs into the box, or 12"? We can't seem to get any specific answer. All they tell us it that it must have a gentle curve with some excess wire.
What purpose does this extra wire serve? We have noticed that in the US or at least in books published in the US they don't have to leave this at all.
We are just looking to do things right the first time round.
Thanks in advance for any answers you can give us.