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rustic 01-02-2009 09:00 AM

changing main panel
 
i need to change my main panel. the old one is a 20 space Murray that is about 15 years old.

i talked to an electrician and he suggested GE as a name brand to go with.

Any second opinions?

Plumbvoltage 01-02-2009 09:09 AM

My house has a new murray (that is the brand the electrician installed) and it seems fine plus the breakers are readily available at hd. Is there a problem with your murray or do you just need more spaces?

rustic 01-02-2009 09:22 AM

the model # is LC220PC.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...PCP&lpage=none

i am having trouble finding a wide assortment of murray breakers to put in here. such as ACFI breakers.

i went to an electrical supply store here and they gave me Siemen's 1/2'' breakers.
But as far as i know they are not on the list of supported breakers.

rustic 01-02-2009 09:25 AM

I found this thread a few days ago which implies that im not supposed to use 1/2'' breakers.

http://www.diychatroom.com/showthrea...hlight=lc220pc


but the description on lowes link above says you can. i just cant find those breakers locally.

Steelhead 01-02-2009 09:42 AM

Can you find the breakers you need online? If not (and I assume that you need more spaces for additional circuits) have you thought about installing a subpanel. Changing out the main panel can be a lot of work.

rustic 01-02-2009 09:44 AM

i already have 1 sub. if i can find some supported slim breakers then that would be great.

i will search online for them. i havent found them locally yet. i thought they had been bought out by siemens and didnt make them anymore.

InPhase277 01-02-2009 09:56 AM

Siemens breakers are identical to Murray breakers. I'm pretty sure they are made on the same assembly line.

HouseHelper 01-02-2009 10:06 AM

You can use tandem breakers in that panel to double the number of circuits. These are 1", two circuit breakers. There are no 1/2" breakers available for this panel. Not all big box stores carry Murray, but you might want check local hardware or building supply stores. Siemens is an acceptable substitute.

There have been issues with Murray main breakers, specifically the "red" ones.

As far as a new panel, SqD (QO or HOM), Siemens, Cutler-Hammer (CH), are all good. I consider GE to be bargain basement.

rustic 01-02-2009 10:22 AM

My main breaker is black, so hopefully ill be good. i havent had any problems so far, but i will be putting a little more load on it.

Inphase,

I have bought the siemens Q2020NC and also Q1515NC.

however i have noticed at lowes that there are different versions of this tandem breaker. the 'NC' is dropped on them. also the ones i have bought are "not for CTL use". they are replacement only.

I have no idea what any of this means, so i wasnt going to chance it. if you can enlighten me, please do.

rustic 01-05-2009 06:50 AM

I have found all the breakers i needed so i did not change the panel.

i had a question on the ground wires. I dont have a lot of room in the panel and now that i added circuits i have bare copper ground wires touching each other in the panel. quite a few of them.

is this a problem?

AndrewF 01-05-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustic (Post 207240)
I have found all the breakers i needed so i did not change the panel.

i had a question on the ground wires. I dont have a lot of room in the panel and now that i added circuits i have bare copper ground wires touching each other in the panel. quite a few of them.

is this a problem?

nope.


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