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paganotc 05-28-2008 12:13 PM

Chandelair, Plugs, and grounding
 
Wondering if someone can help. I have a few questions.

Senerio: My house was built within the past couple years. I do a lot of "fix it up" type stuff but one area where I'm lacking is electrical work. My first electrical task came about today. I'm trying to install a mini-chandelair in my new born daughters room. I obviously want to do it right as far as safety is concerned for her.

The chadelair is currently up and working however, I had to do a few things to get it to work properly:
1. It came with a long wire that is made for plugging into a wall. So, I cut it, spiced the wires, and connected it that way.
2. My wiring in my ceiling is; white, black, and red. I tried to connect the light to the black and white wires. The light went on but it could not turn off! I then checked out another light in the house and noticed it was connected to the white and red wires. So, I did that and it worked.

Now, my concerns is "grounding". I was bragging to my brother about my new found skill and he mentioned "just make sure it's grounded". So I did a little research and now I'm concerned that it's not in there right and my house will burn down in the near future.

The light did not come with a grounding wire because it was made to plug into the wall. The instructions say to use as is or get it professionally installed. I'm definitely not a professional.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

BigJimmy 05-28-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paganotc (Post 126378)
The chadelair is currently up and working however, I had to do a few things to get it to work properly:
1. It came with a long wire that is made for plugging into a wall. So, I cut it, spiced the wires, and connected it that way.

Cutting off the plug and direct wiring probably violates/nullifies the UL listing for this product.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paganotc (Post 126378)
Now, my concerns is "grounding". I was bragging to my brother about my new found skill and he mentioned "just make sure it's grounded". So I did a little research and now I'm concerned that it's not in there right and my house will burn down in the near future.

I don't think you need to worry about the house burning down. You can expect showers of sparks, but probably not a full -fledged fire:laughing:

If the canopy of the light is metal and was connected to the ceiling boxes with metal attachment screws, it is probably grounded. However, as I mentioned previously, unless it is noted in the instructions, this light fixture is probably not rated for direct-wiring. I'd recommend you replace it with one that is.

Take care,
Jimmy

theatretch85 05-28-2008 11:50 PM

Does this chandelier hang directly below the light box to which you have tied it to for power? and if so, do you have the proper base to attach the chain to the box (since I assume it didn't originally come with one)? Usually these bell shaped bases attach to a metal bar that is attached to the box (I am drawing a blank on the actual name of the metal plate). This has a spot for the ground wire to be attached whether or not the attached box is metal. As far as it being properly grounded, I don't think I have ever seen a chandelier light that had a ground wire running from the box to the light itself. Its usually at most a small ground wire to the base where the chain attaches to.


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