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Old 01-09-2011, 10:20 PM   #1
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CFL Flood Lighting Bulbs Woes (Need Bulb Recommendation)


I'm having quite the time with light bulbs in my house. I bought some CFL to replace my old incandescent bulbs to save money and last longer. Well, the first batch I bought would start very very dim and take up to 5 minutes to warm up. This drove me crazy, so I went to Home Depot/Lowes and was told to get the lights with the words "instant on" one them (still CFLs). There was pretty much only one type of flood lights that said "instant on" I picked these up and found that they still require a warm-up time of maybe 30 seconds or so.


Bottom Line: Are there any bulbs out there (other that incandescent) that turn on instantly to full strength? This warm-up period drives my batty. There's not really a selection at Lowe's/HomeDepot.

Links? Brand Suggestions? Anything?

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I assume you are using these outside ?
Where are you located - how cold ?

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Nope. You will be hard pressed to find anything that acts like an incandescent.

You need to understand the physics and chemistry behind CFLS, LEDS and Incandescents.

LEDs MIGHT work better for you, but they are god awful expensive and their color temps are horrible for house lighting at the moment.

I would say stick with a NAME brand CFL not the bargain brand. Get GE, Philips, Sylvania, Westinghouse, etc.

Spend a bit more and get better bulbs. You will find they will last a bit longer and warm up faster.

I have GEs outside and in my house. They take about a minute or so to warm up inside. My outsides are just little 10 watters so they dont really "warm up" at all in this weather.
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The only other option to CFLs,
With an instant turn on is LED.
How ever they are not as bright,
And generally expensive.
All discharge lamps including CFL have a warm up time.
Its normal for CFLs and getts even worse as the lamp ages.
CFLs dont save that much money,
I would say,
use incandesant if you want instant on,
Then in other non critical areas use CFLs.


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I'm having quite the time with light bulbs in my house. I bought some CFL to replace my old incandescent bulbs to save money and last longer. Well, the first batch I bought would start very very dim and take up to 5 minutes to warm up. This drove me crazy, so I went to Home Depot/Lowes and was told to get the lights with the words "instant on" one them (still CFLs). There was pretty much only one type of flood lights that said "instant on" I picked these up and found that they still require a warm-up time of maybe 30 seconds or so.


Bottom Line: Are there any bulbs out there (other that incandescent) that turn on instantly to full strength? This warm-up period drives my batty. There's not really a selection at Lowe's/HomeDepot.

Links? Brand Suggestions? Anything?
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This is for indoor recessed lighting. My first batch I put up were GE, however, they were the one's taking the longest to warm up. The second batch I bought were TCP (probably offbrand) with "instabright technology. Much better, but still not instant.

So it sounds like it varies by brand because I do have friends that have some that light up instantly with no warm-up. I pulled one of their bulbs because they didn't remember where they got it. There's no branding on the side.

As for the LED, I read about those , the lighting sounds horrendous. I like softwhite at 2300K

What about CCFL (Cold cathode) any thought to those? I've never seen any at the store.

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CFLs dont save that much money,
I
I thought on the box they take 15W of power which matches an incandescent 65W bulb? I would think this would have an impact on the electricity bill right?

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CFLs dont save that much money
That depends upon the house & use
I used them in my Christmas display & shaved about 8,000w an HOUR off my use
Of course that's not normal use
But the push is to lower total electric use by millions of people in the US
I have CFL's almost every where in my house & now prefer them
Exception is 2 dimmer circuits
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Make sure your bulbs dont.have a required burn in time. I know my dimmable bulbs required 1 hour of full power so that they could burn in.
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I always understood "instant" on meaning the avoidance of that annoying second-or-so flashing and flicker when some bulbs first start. Otherwise, I would say ALL my CFLs tend to take a half-minute or so to come to full brightness. This effect becomes even more pronounces as they age, by my experience.

The warm-up period does not bother me much. I use CFLs (and some LEDs) in ALL non-dimming circuits. Yes, one must pay attention to light color with CFLs and LEDs.
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Also, fluorescents (and just about everything other than incandescent and LED) do not like frequent offs and ons such as motion detecting outdoor fixtures sometimes produce. If the light is likely to be needed again within half an hour, better to leave it on.

With a reasonable on period, the warmup time is less significant.
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Not when you consider them in the scheme of things,
Lighting only plays a small part of a house hold electricity bill.
If you want to save some signiicant amounts of money,
look at the real power guzzlers, such as Hot water service @ 2000w,
Air conditioner 2000w to 3000w, electric range 2000w to 3000w.
I have found it easy to save large sums just by prudent use
of these power guzzlers.
As compared to the small savings in using CFLs.
And the inconveinence that comes with them.
I think CFLs will soon fade into history
as a well intentioned but poorly delivered idea.
Leds will soon be replacing them.
Also LED lights are available in warm white as well as cool white.




I thought on the box they take 15W of power which matches an incandescent 65W bulb? I would think this would have an impact on the electricity bill right?[/quote]


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