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Old 06-16-2009, 07:30 AM   #1
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ceiling fan or switch issue


I have been trying to figure this out for a while, i put in a new ceiling fan and it works fine but there is a catch I have a porch light now the does not come on without the ceiling fan on and the same for some of the receptacles??



http://ouareau.com/bruce/light.jpg

so if this images works you will see (2) 2 way wires and (1) 3 way wire coming into the fan.

the fan has
black - Black - fan
red - Black - light
white - common
ground



the switch is has 2 sliders one for the fan and the light

black to black
black to red
red to yellow
and then the ground and common white

and then 2 way wire goes out to the the there light switch at the patio

have i cross a wire or is there a way to test the switch?

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:23 AM   #2
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You connected the feed to the porch light to the switched side of the fan switch. It needs to be on the constant hot screw/lead of the fan switch.

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:51 AM   #3
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I tried that but then the light stays on and i can't true it off. unless i wire it wrong, i took 1 black wire coming from the fan to the switch box and connected it to the other black going out to the porch switch.
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You'll have to figure out where your source of power originates at, either in the fan box or the light switch. A lot of times 14/3 wire is run from the light/fan box to the switch box, but one wire carries power to the switch box and the other returns power to the ceiling box. This is usually done to power an outlet on the wall near the switch box, and in this setup you cannot run two separate switches for a fan setup with out running additional wire.

Figure out where the power comes in at (should be a 2 conductor plus ground in one of the boxes. You will have to disconnect some wires to determine which is the hot one. Give us a description of the wires and how they are connected in the switch box for the porch light, switch box for the fan, and the fan box. Pictures would help to describe this in better detail.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:36 PM   #5
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found the power source it was coming from a plug into the fan switch. hear are some images i hope you can figure it out with me.

http://ouareau.com/bruce/

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:33 PM   #6
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My first question is this; did everything work fine before you installed the new fan? (I'm assuming there used to be either a light fixture or another fan there, correct me if that is wrong)

If so, did you also install a new switch at the same time?

The odd thing is that you only have 2 cables in your fan switch box. If power is coming in from the bottom of the box out to the fan at the top of it, then that switch shouldn't affect your porch light at all. This makes me think that someone junctioned off your fan cable up in the ceiling to feed your porch light and receptacles. If that is the case, and obviously, I can't say for sure that it is, then you will need to find someplace else to feed the porch light circuit.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:37 AM   #7
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You are correct everything did work fine before there was a light fixture there before with an older style switch and wanted to change the switch so i could control the fan an the light independently.

OK that makes scene i have 3 other (2 wire) coming into the the fan in the ceiling. I will test them each to try and come up with there origin. and then figure out where to power it from.

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Old 06-18-2009, 09:09 PM   #8
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want to thank everyone for there Help I ran a new power source cable to the other switch and removed the feed from the ceiling fan and everything works great

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