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ycheus 10-31-2012 05:48 PM

Ceiling fan junction box w/o switch
 
We are in the final stage of deciding our new house high voltage option. One of them related to ceiling fan junction box. There are three options, junction box without switch or with one switch or two switches. What is switch for? Is that the switch from fan you ca turn on/off light and fan? Builder charges $130for one switch on wall. So in order to reduce the cost, I am ok to use the pull chain from fan to control the light and fan. Does the option without switch works for me? I nto have both fan and light and be able to control them individually.

k_buz 10-31-2012 05:56 PM

They should not be able to offer a no switch option. The NEC requires a way to turn on a light when entering a room. The switch can control an overhead light, or a switched receptacle, but the switch has to be there.

stickboy1375 10-31-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 1041960)
They should not be able to offer a no switch option. The NEC requires a way to turn on a light when entering a room. The switch can control an overhead light, or a switched receptacle, but the switch has to be there.

The switch could also be the breaker in the panel... all that is required is a switched lighting outlet in each room. Im assuming the OP is confused in what his options really are and what is required.

rjniles 10-31-2012 06:52 PM

Spend the money and go with a 2 switch option. Using pull chains on fans is a PIA. (And BTW your contractor is a low end price %^%$#@#).

stickboy1375 10-31-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 1041999)
(And BTW your contractor is a low end price %^%$#@#).

Why do you say that?

ycheus 10-31-2012 06:53 PM

So is it true that the junction box is located behind the wall instead of on the ceiling (our wire layout showing it on the place where the fan is) ? If I selected with one switch , am I able to control the fan and light individually through pull chain? Is the two switch option for have two wall switches ? If I choose one switch option is it possible for me to have an electrician to install the two switches on wall later on?

ycheus 10-31-2012 06:56 PM

The reason I consider the one switch option is that I think remote switch is better than wall switch. Am I right in thinking about this?

rjniles 10-31-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 1042001)
Why do you say that?

Because that's what I think. Quote the job properly up front. How much does it cost to use a 3 wire cable, a 2 gang box and an extra switch and do it right.

rjniles 10-31-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ycheus (Post 1042006)
The reason I consider the one switch option is that I think remote switch is better than wall switch. Am I right in thinking about this?

Not in my opinion. Having the 2 switch wiring in place gives you many options. Don't even consider having it done later after the drywall is up.

k_buz 10-31-2012 07:03 PM

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If I choose one switch option is it possible for me to have an electrician to install the two switches on wall later on?
Yes, but it will be at least double the price you have been given to do it up front.

k_buz 10-31-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 1041995)
The switch could also be the breaker in the panel... all that is required is a switched lighting outlet in each room. Im assuming the OP is confused in what his options really are and what is required.

Only if the panel is in THAT room.

Quote:

(1) Habitable Rooms. At least one wall switch–controlled
lighting outlet shall be installed in every habitable room
and bathroom.

ycheus 10-31-2012 07:09 PM

Many thanks !!!

stickboy1375 10-31-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 1042024)
Only if the panel is in THAT room.

You are reading it wrong!!!

k_buz 10-31-2012 07:20 PM

I know where you are going with that, but there is no way an inspector buys your logic. If that was the case, there would be no need for the code article at all, because all receptacles in the dwelling are controlled by an breaker.

stickboy1375 10-31-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 1042035)
I know where you are going with that, but there is no way an inspector buys your logic. If that was the case, there would be no need for the code article at all, because all receptacles in the dwelling are controlled by an breaker.

What logic? That's what the code requires.. No where are switches required in the same room as the switched lighting outlet. End of story.


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