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Ceiling fan junction box w/o switch

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We are in the final stage of deciding our new house high voltage option. One of them related to ceiling fan junction box. There are three options, junction box without switch or with one switch or two switches. What is switch for? Is that the switch from fan you ca turn on/off light and fan? Builder charges $130for one switch on wall. So in order to reduce the cost, I am ok to use the pull chain from fan to control the light and fan. Does the option without switch works for me? I nto have both fan and light and be able to control them individually.
 
#2 ·
They should not be able to offer a no switch option. The NEC requires a way to turn on a light when entering a room. The switch can control an overhead light, or a switched receptacle, but the switch has to be there.
 
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So is it true that the junction box is located behind the wall instead of on the ceiling (our wire layout showing it on the place where the fan is) ? If I selected with one switch , am I able to control the fan and light individually through pull chain? Is the two switch option for have two wall switches ? If I choose one switch option is it possible for me to have an electrician to install the two switches on wall later on?
 
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Not in my opinion. Having the 2 switch wiring in place gives you many options. Don't even consider having it done later after the drywall is up.
 
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If I choose one switch option is it possible for me to have an electrician to install the two switches on wall later on?
Yes, but it will be at least double the price you have been given to do it up front.
 
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I know where you are going with that, but there is no way an inspector buys your logic. If that was the case, there would be no need for the code article at all, because all receptacles in the dwelling are controlled by an breaker.
 
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I won't argue, inspectors here won't go for it, and I highly doubt that will fly with other areas. It defeats the entire purpose of the requirement if the switched outlet if the switch isn't required to be in or adjacent to the room it services.
 
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Just my 2 cents. You are required to have a switched light via receptacle or a swtched ceiling light. No inspector is going to allow you to switch a freakin bedroom light or any room light in a finished area from a circuit breaker in a panel. Your kidding yourself if you think that is going to happen.
In this case I think what they mean by "no switch" is just power to the fixture and the fan and light dome switched by pull chains.

FWIW I'm always interested in the intent of code language. However the OP is talking about the options for switching his room lighting... ceiling fan or whatever as offered by the builder. I really don't now why we are going off on the fact that code language would allow you to switch the light from the circuit breaker panel. No one in new constructuion would wire that way ...:) Your going to lose your appeal to the ahj and I doubt that Stickboy or anyone hear that has wired residential has ever done this. BUT I'm forced to agree the NEC doesn't say that the switch must be in the same room ..... :jester: An inspector would probably look at me and say does that breaker look like a wall switch to you .....:wink:
 
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