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Old 05-20-2013, 10:01 AM   #16
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Plastic boxes and a fan don't mix.

Try this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Westingho...2#.UZoqi0pGSho
There are listed nonmetallic fan boxes, but not the one shown by the OP.

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Just installed one of these:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-1-...8#.UZoRbNgZ9Uw

I can easily move it around with my hand. Does this mean the fan will wobble or once the fan is pulled up to the drywall it will hold it firmly? I realize I should have probably purchased a better box, but drywall is up and fastened and I prefer to not have to drop it again. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
The fan or the box????

As Jim notes, that does not look like a fan rated box (not that I recognize every makers fan box)

While not addressing code, in Cali I found two different fan rated boxes... for different weight fans.... can't remember the exact weights.

However in my personal home in Co, I have 6 fans thru house mounted on regular metal boxes for 20 + years with no problem... however I did mount each directly to framing members. If that box wobbles, I would think it might promote/or-not-help any imbalance and wobble in the actual fan.


EDIT: As Busman notes, the fan rated boxes we installed in Cali were not metal, but not blues. They were kind of a hard bakelite type fiberglassy solid box. Stretcher bars were heavier and much more solid.
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If the box is not the sole support for the fan it does not need to be fan rated.
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The assembly I have is definitely far from beefy. That's weird that they've been selling this box as a fan box for over a year now. Installing a new one is not an issue, removing this one is since it's screwed to the joists. If I'm lucky I'll be able to fit my driver up there, otherwise I'll need pull enough screws from the drywall to hopefully get to it without dropping the sheets.
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Drop the box off the bar. Cut the bar with snips or a hacksaw. Bend the remnants out of the way.
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Drop the box off the bar. Cut the bar with snips or a hacksaw. Bend the remnants out of the way.
The remnants will be in the way of the new bar.
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looks like your choices are:

1. go with the existing box and risk the fan falling

2. cut ceiling and install proper box, repair ceiling.
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A wobbly fan is nothing to mess with. Go into another room and turn one on and then think about that animal falling down while in motion. The smallest wobble can cause a catastrophe

I have seen what happens when a fan falls while in motion at an apartment, small fan - huge amount of damage and dam near killed a kid in a room.

Would you drive on a car with a wobbly wheel?

It is just not worth the risk. Change the box.

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looks like your choices are:

1. go with the existing box and risk the fan falling

2. cut ceiling and install proper box, repair ceiling.
3. use the brace that AandPdan linked to. Or a similar one like
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Raco-15-5...1#.UZp6l5w2iAY
Either will go up thru a 4 inch hole.
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I'm just hoping the fan will pull up to the drywall and lock it in place.
Yes, this should happen. I installed a retrofit wall box with light switches that's a bit wiggly without the coverplate. Put the coverplate on, and it becomes solid. This only works if the box is recessed from the drywall, but I believe code requires boxes to be recessed 1/8" from the drywall anyway.
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The code does not require the box to be recessed. It is allowed to be recessed up to 1/4" in a non-combustible surface. In a combustible surface it must be flush or proud of the surface.
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All is right in the world. I replaced it with a Westinghouse box. Removing the old one was tricky, but I was able to do it by only removing three rows of screws from the sheet of drywall. Thanks for the heads up about the old box.
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I'm glad to hear you took the time to do it right.

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