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Old 04-17-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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I've see the drawing for lights/chandelier over bath tub (in forum) but I think this refers to USA. See drawing. #3 is gfi with 1, 2, 9, 4 being tapped off 3. # 3 would be dedicated from panel at 15 amps. #5, 6, 7, 8, 10 would be another 15 amp dedicated 15 amp non gfi.

Questions: A) Can I have chandelier over bathtub?
B) Are switches too close to bathtub? If yes can switch be outside the bathroom
C) Because only switch 4 is gfi protected can I still use a 3 gang box?


D) Kitchen: Any rules regarding distance from sink for a non gfi switch controlling lighting?


Input regarding Ontario electrical code refering to above would be appreciated.

I have uploaded a compressed drawing of bathroom.

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Old 04-17-2012, 02:20 PM   #2
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Chandelier must be approved for use in a wet location.
Switches are not permitted closer than 1m to a tub or shower. If they must be closer then .5m is the minimum and they must be GFCI protected.
There is no code on kitchen switches in proximity to a sink. Receptacles within 1.5m have to be GFCI protected.

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Thanks for the quick reply.

A) If 3 switches are between 1 and .5 meter from bathtub, is it good enough that only 1 item is GFCI protected in a 3 gang box with 3 switches? Does one gfci item protect the hole box?

B) "Approved for wet location": Does this mean that it has to be waterproof like for showers?

C) I can understand having a 'waterproof' light in a shower, however, lots of lights above vanitys are standard 'spot lights'. Is it because it is above a soaker tub that it has to be approved for a wet location?

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Thanks for the quick reply.

A) If 3 switches are between 1 and .5 meter from bathtub, is it good enough that only 1 item is GFCI protected in a 3 gang box with 3 switches? Does one gfci item protect the hole box?

B) "Approved for wet location": Does this mean that it has to be waterproof like for showers?

C) I can understand having a 'waterproof' light in a shower, however, lots of lights above vanitys are standard 'spot lights'. Is it because it is above a soaker tub that it has to be approved for a wet location?

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B)Yes

C)your stepping into a tub full of water and loose your balance,out of instinct you reach and grab onto the chandelier which is on!
Lets just say it would probably be the last bath you'd ever take.
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a. All switches need to be GFCI protected. If they are all on the same circuit then one GFCI can do it.
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From the ESA FAQ site.

http://www.esasafe.com/faqs.htm

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Does the Code permit a light fixture to be installed in a shower?
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Yes, as long as the fixture is approved for wet locations.

Rule 30-318.

Ontario Electrical Safety Code 24th Edition/2009.
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Does the Code require GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) protection of a light fixture located in a residential tub / shower enclosure?
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No, the Code does not require GFCI protection, however if the fixture manufacturer's installation instructions require GFCI protection, then the Code requires that the instructions be followed.

Rule 2-034.
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Thanks joed especially for the link to ESA. It gives me another source to search for info.

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I can see a Chandlier being a night mare to keep dust free in a bathroom.
All the hot moist air in the room will make any dust in the air stick to it.

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