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Old 08-07-2013, 08:49 PM   #1
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i am looking for info on these. searching, well, i guess i am not using the correct terms.

i want some for my new kitchen. i am thinking 6 would be fine. new construction. insulation contact. stylish would be nice, if not too expensive.
gosh, i don't even know what else to ask.

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Old 08-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #2
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Can you be more specific?

Having installed five of these in my kitchen I can say it is not that hard if you have access to the area above the kitchen. if you don't, well lets say it requires more skill.

you can buy a box of 6 at a big box store for like $65 - $80. Plus the cost of the special tool to cut the holes.

Also though we call them "can lights" the technical term is "recessed lights"

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http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ings&FORM=IGRE
Here's some ideas on available trim rings.
If there's an unheated attic space above your going to need IC, Air Tite cans.
As long as you can run the wire to the hole if there's a room above you can use remodeling cans instead of new construction.
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the ceiling is completely open = no drywall, and will be insulated.

i am searching around. and i find that some IC cans are not air tight. is that common ? i want air tight. perhaps i should use those "covers" (or make my own ?).

as far as the "light" i want. something not a harsh white. i want a warm light.
and it will only be for general lighting. i was going to put a basic ceiling fan/light in, but have changed my mind to cans. i will have under cabinet lights also.
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oh. i read here that 6" cans are out dated. any trueth to this ?

i wish i could see some working displays.
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The big box stores typically have working displays where you can see the recessed and trims.
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i just found a bunch of threads on this. what is concerning me now, is the heat loss.
idk, maybe i am over thinking this.
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The main issue is make sure you get proper trim for the IC cans so you may end up get ICAT ( Insluated concat air tite ) trims but watch the wattage ratings on them.

Some of the ICAT trim may not allow to use the CFL lamps so watch the depth of that trim.

Look around and see what it will fit your style what you like the most.

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Something like this?
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that floor is FANTASTIC !!!

but yeah, those look ok. though imo they are placed too close to the cabinets.
i am going to check out a few stores and see if they have displays.

but, right now, my main concern is heat = i don't want to be heating the attic. i see problems with that. should i be concerned ? what can i do about it ?
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Really beautiful kitchen! Aren’t those 4” recessed lights?

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that floor is FANTASTIC !!!

but yeah, those look ok. though imo they are placed too close to the cabinets.
i am going to check out a few stores and see if they have displays.

but, right now, my main concern is heat = i don't want to be heating the attic. i see problems with that. should i be concerned ? what can i do about it ?
I would have added one more light to the right of the sink edge to match the left side ...

No those are exactly where they are suppose to be ... Centered on the edge of the counter top ....

Think about why you need light there. .... To work ... If they were behind you then a shadow would be on your work space and they would be useless ...

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Really beautiful kitchen! Aren’t those 4” recessed lights?
Thanks.
Here is the link for the ones I used.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_289427-53058...hts&facetInfo=
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How would you loose heat with an IC air tight can? You can add spray foam on the back side and run the insulation right over and around it.
If you think there out of style you better start calling the builders that are installing these day in and day out by the thousands.
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I would have added one more light to the right of the sink edge to match the left side ...

No those are exactly where they are suppose to be ... Centered on the edge of the counter top ....

Think about why you need light there. .... To work ... If they were behind you then a shadow would be on your work space and they would be useless ...

IMHO
i want my lights for general lighting = like if there was a old school light right in the middle of the space. i will have under cab lights for working.
i am thinking this exact placement
http://herzigdrywall.com/images/gall...ighting1_2.jpg

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