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Old 08-20-2008, 10:46 PM   #16
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just a fair warning. The legal costs could be pretty high. As long as you are aware, it's up to you and no, I don;t use limewire either. Ever since that gal lost $220k or whatever it was (although that award is under judicial review), hopefully people get the idea the RIAA is serious about protecting their rights.

Bottom line; what you are doing is illegal (as already noted). I do not believe we can ignore laws merely because we believe they are not just. If you do that, I know some folks that feel that all laws are unjust so based upon the ignore if you feel it is unjust mentality, there would be a few dead people around.(they are pretty scary folks and truly wouldn't be surprised to hear they already ignore such laws)

I buy my code books thank you anyway. I already have the '08 as well as the '05, '02, and '99, as well as several various editions prior to that.

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Old 08-20-2008, 11:26 PM   #17
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just a fair warning. The legal costs could be pretty high. As long as you are aware, it's up to you and no, I don;t use limewire either. Ever since that gal lost $220k or whatever it was (although that award is under judicial review), hopefully people get the idea the RIAA is serious about protecting their rights.

Bottom line; what you are doing is illegal (as already noted). I do not believe we can ignore laws merely because we believe they are not just. If you do that, I know some folks that feel that all laws are unjust so based upon the ignore if you feel it is unjust mentality, there would be a few dead people around.(they are pretty scary folks and truly wouldn't be surprised to hear they already ignore such laws)

I buy my code books thank you anyway. I already have the '08 as well as the '05, '02, and '99, as well as several various editions prior to that.
Good for you, Nap! I'll live my unjust, clandestine existence with no guilt, spreading the "illegally found" NEC to all those who want it! Bring the attorneys! (this would make great headlines in the Tribune, BTW).
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Good for you, Nap! I'll live my unjust, clandestine existence with no guilt, spreading the "illegally found" NEC to all those who want it! Bring the attorneys! (this would make great headlines in the Tribune, BTW).
with your permission then, I will forward this to the copyright holder of the NEC and let them do what they wish.

Just a bit of info for your side of the arguement:

http://www.electric-find.com/nfpa.htm

it's not that I disagree with you about the availability of the code but to why you have to buy it; the NFPA publishes and has the code printed. There are costs involved and the sale of the book covers those costs. In Michigan, the addendum to the NEC they enact is $5 if youwant a copy. I cannot remember what it costs for a full copy of the code but bottom line; it costs money to produce those books and cd's so they should be able to charge something for them.
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The prices charged by the NFPA are WAY above the cost of publishing the material. They are a world class rip off as far as I am concerned. I buy their code books (or get them free in class), but my opinion is they are charging way to much for the products they publish. It's become all about money, not about safety.

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I bought a hardcopy of the 2008 NEC code book, but having a PDF file makes it real easy to search the NEC for the proper code, allowing me to look it up in the 2008 code book. I don't know what version my area is on, but if I make the additions up to code with the 2008, I figure I will be fine.

I bought my 2008 NEC code book on ebay and I think i only paid like 70-80 bucks for it, instead of 150+ (I think its like 180 something for the book).
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For the 2008 Editioon:
The straight code book is around $80.
The CD is around $100

The Handbook is around $130.
The CD is around $180.

You can get combo packs that save money.
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http://www.contractor-books.com/NEC_Code2008.htm
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All this said, I would not return a free copy if it were given to me.
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All this said, I would not return a free copy if it were given to me.
I see it that way too. This code cycle is the first time I've had to buy my own. Usually a CE course throws in a free copy. But I don't get the company freebees since I became the company.
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For the 2008 Editioon:
The straight code book is around $80.
The CD is around $100

The Handbook is around $130.
The CD is around $180.

You can get combo packs that save money.
always shop around. I paid $55 for my '08 paper copy at a local supply house. The boss said he could get them for $52 (I think but darn close if I am off) through NECA.

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