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Old 11-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #16
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...If you use a receptacle that much, you should put it on a switch. Think about it. How often do you unplug and plug things in.
Workshop receptacle, plug/unplug sander, router, saw, etc multiple times per shop session. Do you really think each of those should be on a switch?

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Leviton makes a pretty good outlet. No need for an industrial grade. More money than you'll want to spend. But, I do agree with the water resistant point. Especially in a kitchen. Not required by the NEC, but a good idea.


And JV, I bet you buy cheap tools too.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:28 PM   #18
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Workshop receptacle, plug/unplug sander, router, saw, etc multiple times per shop session. Do you really think each of those should be on a switch?
No. I would use a good grade receptacle in these areas. Would you put a $3.00 receptacle on a stairwell in your house?
A little common sense please.
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And JV, I bet you buy cheap tools too.
How much?
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:43 PM   #20
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Actually I find it less expensive in the long run to buy more expensive quality things which will last.

Also that makes my life more pleasant. I don't need to fix/replace everything constantly!
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To the OP: are they the same amps? I was at Lowe's today and 15a outlets start at 59 cents. 20a outlets start at $3.50

Why the huge price diff there, I am not sure either!
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I'm no expert mind you, but I understand that code in Canada,unlike the US, says that 20A circuits MUST have the outlets with the "sideways slots" while 15A circuits MUST use the outlets with regular slots. am I wrong? maybe that's the dif between the cheapo and more expensive one?

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More than you want to bet.

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Cheap is the way to go. Why spend more for basically the same thing. If you use a receptacle that much, you should put it on a switch. Think about it. How often do you unplug and plug things in.
Yeah, you buy cheap tools. I'm willing to bet my posting history V yours.

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More than you want to bet.
Yeah, you buy cheap tools. I'm willing to bet my posting history V yours.
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Some of us here are actually real electricians and contractors. Prices are very important to us. I can say with complete confidence that 59 cent receptacles have their place. You see we work from specs which you do not. If the job specs a certain grade receptacle we use that receptacle. That way we can be relevant as far as job consideration.
I have installed my fair share of 59 cent ones. $3 dollar ones and $20 dollar ones. I can say the 59 cent ones hold up just as well as the rest do in the right application.
I could care less about posting history. I will gladly give all my posts to you if that will make you feel better.

One more thing. I come here to help. Not to defend myself. This forum is for questions, comments and advice. I gave my advice. If you do not like it. Well you know what you can do.

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I would buy both and disassemble them. The price difference might be the country of origin.

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If you use a receptacle that much, you should put it on a switch. Think about it. How often do you unplug and plug things in.
How often?... ahhhh... all the time.
I would think an electrician would use good quality products.
Everyone has had experience with loose cheapo receptacles.
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About the only thing in my house that gets plugged and unplugged is the vaccum cleaner.

Everything else stays plugged in, and I use the cheapo's in my house.

My shop is different, but those receptacles were left over from a job that needed sepc. grade receptacles.
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...I would think an electrician would use good quality products.
Everyone has had experience with loose cheapo receptacles.

Not necessarily!

Some jobs electricians have are to wire up new tract homes being built. Low bidder gets the job. All the builder cares about is that everything works, looks ok, and passes inspection. So the cheapest outlets and switches are the norm.

And I have done this for other people. That is what they want. (If you are buying one of those homes, you can have one built with higher quality outlets or other things. But the price will of course go up.)

For *my* house, I want quality. And it is not that expensive for just one house. But if you are talking 25 or 50 homes being built, any little savings will add up to big bucks and more profit...
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I guess you're right about the low bid but I'm disappointed. I had a number of loose receptacles that I swapped out that were junk.
The low bid is the same reason China became a manufacturing powerhouse.

I would add kitchen appliances and chargers to the list of things that are frequently plugged and unplugged.
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I guess you're right about the low bid but I'm disappointed. I had a number of loose receptacles that I swapped out.
The low bid is the same reason China became a manufacturing powerhouse.

I would add kitchen appliances and chargers to the list of things that are frequently plugged and unplugged.
It's not all about bidding. It's about personal taste and misconceptions. The conception that 59 cent receptacles are junk is wrong. That is my conception after installing literally thousands of them over 35 years in this business. Thousands.
Does everyone consider plastic boxes junk? Some people do and some people don't. That does not make the plastic box anything but an option. Just like a 59 cent receptacle is an option over a $3 dollar one. If you must use the $3 dollar one, why not use the $20 dollar ones.
It's what you like and what you prefer, nothing more.
If you hire me to wire your house, I am going to use the least expensive receptacles I can find. Unless you spec different receptacles.
Some people think running conduit is the only way and some people think cable is the only way. See my point.

As far as kitchen appliances. Tell me which ones you actually unplug and plug back in many times or even once a day? I bet you cannot come up with one.
Do you unplug the toaster after you use it, fridge, microwave? How many times do you actually unplug a charger? Don't we just normally remove the device?
Someone mentioned China. Even the $20 dollar receptacles come from China. Name a device manufacturer that makes these things here in the US. I don't know of any, although they might exist.
And finally. "Loose" receptacles. Have you found this receptacle location to be high use? If so, get a better grade.
I can say in my house I use the least expensive I can find and they are never loose. The opposite. To tight. Sometimes it takes all you got to unplug something.
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Some of us here are actually real electricians and contractors.
Please don't assume, it just makes you look like a fool.

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Prices are very important to us.
I'm sure they are.

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I can say with complete confidence that 59 cent receptacles have their place.
Yes, I am sure they do. In the garbage where they belong.

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You see we work from specs which you do not.
I ork from the same "specs" so to speak. And this has nothing to do with "specs". IMO, you gave bad advice.


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If the job specs a certain grade receptacle we use that receptacle. That way we can be relevant as far as job consideration.
Are you serious? You mean to tell me that you have to use hospital grade in a hospital? STFU!?!?!?! Are you serious?!?!?!

Yeah, perhaps you shouldn't talk down to people.

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I have installed my fair share of 59 cent ones. $3 dollar ones and $20 dollar ones. I can say the 59 cent ones hold up just as well as the rest do in the right application.
In the right application, sure. Like, something that get's thrown away, or something you don't care about.

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I could care less about posting history. I will gladly give all my posts to you if that will make you feel better.
It would make me feel better if I knew which company you owned, so I would never hire you.

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One more thing. I come here to help. Not to defend myself.
Sorry, this is an open forum.

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This forum is for questions, comments and advice. I gave my advice. If you do not like it. Well you know what you can do.

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Yes, you gave your advice, and I gave mine. I think you're a cheap electrician. Nothing personal, just me personally, I would rather see a good quality job that lasts for years to come, than garbage.

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