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DIYGST 01-22-2009 02:23 AM

buy a hole cutting for recessed lighting install?
 
I am putting in 6 cans for now maybe more in the future.
Should I buy a circle cutter for this job? Is it less dust than hand sawing the ceiling?

Also I was wondering after you picked a spot to drill the circle you want to avoid the studs near by so the remodel cans can work. You only have one chance to get it right, how do you do this? I think it's best to check from the attic and cut the hole from above?

DangerMouse 01-22-2009 02:59 AM

drill a small hole where you want the first can and stick a coat hanger or stick through it so you can see it in the attic to give you an idea where you can and cannot cut holes. and for 6 holes, i'd use a saw and clean up the dust. but hey, i'm cheap too..... =o)

DM

II Weeks 01-22-2009 05:06 AM

the coat hanger idea works, so does using the template that they provide with the lights and use a finish nail from east to west then north and south.
as far as that 6" hole saw, it kicks up a lot of dust. If its a plastered ceiling than use that saw otherwise do it by hand.

Bob Mariani 01-22-2009 05:20 AM

Use a saw. You will never get your money's worth with the 6" hole saw. To miss the studs. Mark the ceiling with your template. Then saw from the middle out to these lines towards the joists. If you hit the joist before you hit the line, you know home much to move the center hole to re-mark and cut the hole for proper clearance.

Chemist1961 01-22-2009 06:35 AM

Has anybody suggested a good stud sensor? Use a suacer if you need for a pattern. When cutting by hand undercut work to the edge.

In walls I always pre perf my pattern with a drill bit or knife tip overhead then cut with a knife.... less dust that way. A large curved back file for finishing makes a tidy rounded contour and a clean edge.

That said aren't 6" pots considered rather large today???

HD has a Bosch hole saw kit for cheap designed specifically for pot lights but smaller than 6".

Measure twice cut once!

Chemist1961 01-22-2009 06:36 AM

Sorry now I see you said putting in 6 not putting 6 in as in 6":thumbsup:

Chemist1961 01-22-2009 06:39 AM

On a final note, cutting from above forces crumbing if any open or visible side. Less problems from below............

pcampbell 01-22-2009 06:57 AM

I like smaller lights, not 6". like 4". I already have a 4" hole saw. +1 on the coat hanger!!!

Stubbie 01-22-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIYGST (Post 217087)
I am putting in 6 cans for now maybe more in the future.
Should I buy a circle cutter for this job? Is it less dust than hand sawing the ceiling?

Also I was wondering after you picked a spot to drill the circle you want to avoid the studs near by so the remodel cans can work. You only have one chance to get it right, how do you do this? I think it's best to check from the attic and cut the hole from above?

I'd use a quick cutter like the greenlee if your dealing with drywall. Cut from below. Get your ceiling joist centers then mark on the ceiling be careful of electrical cables that may be ran where your hole is wanted, this might take a trip to the attic.

http://www.toolbarn.com/images/greenlee/06923.jpg

DIYGST 01-22-2009 12:58 PM

I am installing 6" cans (6 of them)
Would have gone smaller but the LED bulb I am using (Cree LR6) only comes in 6's their 4" model cost 2x as much!

I know it would be kind of huge but, I guess all added up still same or less surface area than a giant 2-4 tube fluorscent light fixture.

DUDE! 01-22-2009 03:56 PM

I also go with the coat hanger idea, if you have insulation, you can push up through it or at least make the insulation stick up. One other thought, I wish I had gone with the IC recessed fixtures, avoiding having to get the insulation out of the way.

DIYGST 01-22-2009 03:59 PM

Have you guys used something called "Hole Pro"
I am consider getting it because it is useful for many things, I am installing 6 cans right now but I probably have a few more planned in the future too.

handyman78 01-22-2009 04:21 PM

I looked at their website- HolePro looks like the Greenlee with a dust cover attached. Although very dusty in use you might also consider the RotoZip tool either with a hole attachment or some sort of firm template to trace.

PaliBob 01-22-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DIYGST (Post 217380)
Have you guys used something called "Hole Pro"

Amazon has a lot of different models. The more expensive ones have a nice dust collector.
Amazon.com: hole pro: Home Improvement

The $39.95 model looks DANGEROUS

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DIYGST 01-22-2009 04:27 PM

BTW I looked at the green Lee cutter too one review from Amazon say it's not good at all and ended up using a saw.


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