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09-13-2010, 08:55 PM
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what is the code for a breaker box i bought one from usa can i use it in ontario
putting a new breaker panel box in my garage and need to now what the codes are box i bought it in the usa but want to install it in Ontario i have the code book but cant find it in there i no u can use wiring and stuff that say ul and so on the panel has that but someone was telling the panel box has to be csa only thanks
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09-13-2010, 09:47 PM
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Far as I know the panel should say it is listed CSA and USA on the labeling in the panel or on the panel door.
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09-13-2010, 09:53 PM
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what if it only says ul on the box
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09-13-2010, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pleasehellpme
what if it only says ul on the box
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What does the labeling inside the panel say? There should be a label in the panel that lists specifications for the panel wiring and breakers and the panel itself.
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09-13-2010, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pleasehellpme
what is the code for a breaker box i bought one from usa can i use it in ontario
putting a new breaker panel box in my garage and need to now what the codes are box i bought it in the usa but want to install it in Ontario i have the code book but cant find it in there i no u can use wiring and stuff that say ul and so on the panel has that but someone was telling the panel box has to be csa only thanks
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If you write in sentences, and use capitalization and punctuation, it will be MUCH easier to read and comprehend your posts.
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09-13-2010, 10:01 PM
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i'll have to look its in the box still at the other house i'm renovating thanks
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09-13-2010, 10:35 PM
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there is a Canadian electrician that posts here that would likely know your answer but I suspect that any equipment used in Canada MUST be CSA listed. If yours does not say such, I suspect it will not be legal to use it.
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09-14-2010, 01:05 AM
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I am on the same page as Nap is but just wait one of our Canadain guys do show up they can confirm your information with it.
Merci.
Marc
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09-14-2010, 10:29 AM
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There was another thread on this exact same issue
Without the CSA listing it can't be used
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09-14-2010, 10:39 AM
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I'm with Dave and nap on this one, it MUST be approved by CSA to use it there.
(Although I would imagine in most fixtures, switches, devices, etc. UL approved would be sufficient, however I could be wrong.)
For Speedy Petey:
What is the code for a breaker box? I bought one from the USA. Can i use it in Ontario?
I'm putting a new breaker panel box in my garage and need to now what the codes are. The box I bought in the USA, but want to install it in Ontario. I have the code book but cant find it in there. I know you can use wiring and stuff that says UL and so on. The panel has that but someone was telling me the panel box has to be CSA only.
Thanks!
You're welcome Petey! *grin*
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09-14-2010, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerMouse
For Speedy Petey:
What is the code for a breaker box? I bought one from the USA. Can i use it in Ontario?
I'm putting a new breaker panel box in my garage and need to now what the codes are. The box I bought in the USA, but want to install it in Ontario. I have the code book but cant find it in there. I know you can use wiring and stuff that says UL and so on. The panel has that but someone was telling me the panel box has to be CSA only.
Thanks!
You're welcome Petey! *grin*
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09-14-2010, 04:43 PM
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You can NOT use a breaker box from USA in Canada. They do not pass code. In Canada the main breaker has a separate compartment from the branch circuit breakers. It also won't have a CSA approval.
I'm don't think you can use the cable from USA either. They have different names for cables such as NM-B. NM-B is not a listed/certified cable in Ontario. Equivalent cable is called NMD.
Example of a Canadian panel
Similar panel USA version
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09-14-2010, 04:48 PM
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In Canada the main breaker has a separate compartment from the branch circuit breakers. It also won't have a CSA approval.
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One more manufacturing requirement that I like about Canadian electrical equipment.
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09-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
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One more manufacturing requirement that I like about Canadian electrical equipment.
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Yeah I really like that design too
But NEC is too busy getting that neutral code to each box passed
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09-14-2010, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
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if you write in sentences, and use capitalization and punctuation, it will be much easier to read and comprehend your posts.
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that's not nice.
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