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baum 09-01-2009 07:43 AM

Breaker?
 
I am putting in a sub-panel in the basement. My main panel is a square d it looks like i need to use a "hom250" (homeline series) is there any cross reference as to another breaker i can use? I see that my local HD doesnt have square d on their website.

So is there another brand that will work in its place?

Thanks

Scuba_Dave 09-01-2009 07:49 AM

HD does not list a lot of items that are carried in the store on their web-site
What is your main breaker rating ?
What size sub are you running?

baum 09-01-2009 07:52 AM

Main panel (square d) is going to get a 50a, and the sub is a 125a rated eaton cuttler hammer. I ran it with 6-3. I am only running 3 circuits in the sub (20a for bathroom, 15a living room, 15a arc fault bedroom)

Scuba_Dave 09-01-2009 07:55 AM

The local HD's near me all carry the Homeline brand
If it's a bit of a drive call them 1st

baum 09-01-2009 08:02 AM

So my main panel does not have a main breaker in it. I already have my sub wired (no breakers in it) and basement wired (going to schedule rough-in electrical this week). When i pass and get towards then end of the project how should i go about hooking that 50a up to the main? I know how to hook it up but with the live power is what i question. Ground... netrual... red-black to breaker. insert breaker in the off position and snap it in or what?

Scuba_Dave 09-01-2009 08:05 AM

There isn't any shut off ahead of the main panel?
I have added breakers to a live panel, but prefer to shut them off
Yes, I wire up the ground & neutral 1st
Then attach hots & snap it in - with the breaker off

baum 09-01-2009 08:07 AM

Thanks for the replies!

PS i just looked at your house reno NICE work. Are you just a DIY'er or in the trades?

Scuba_Dave 09-01-2009 08:18 AM

Thanks, i'm just a DIY'r
But I've been doing DIY stuff since I was a kid
This house the major upgrades/building are "done"
"Just" need to do the finish work mostly :laughing:

Jim Port 09-01-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baum (Post 322221)
Main panel (square d) is going to get a 50a, and the sub is a 125a rated eaton cuttler hammer. I ran it with 6-3. I am only running 3 circuits in the sub (20a for bathroom, 15a living room, 15a arc fault bedroom)

You would need to use either the BR or CH classic breaker in your panel. CH classic has a brown enclosure.

Homelines and QO are not listed for use in CH panels.

baum 09-01-2009 10:27 AM

I am trying to figure out the main panel. i know the sub needs the ch. I was just wondering if there is something else besides the square d homeline that will work in the main panel. I just didnt see any homeline on the home depot website

WaldenL 09-01-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave (Post 322227)
There isn't any shut off ahead of the main panel?
I have added breakers to a live panel, but prefer to shut them off
Yes, I wire up the ground & neutral 1st
Then attach hots & snap it in - with the breaker off


Why would you ever add them hot? Sure, I guess it's safe enough if you're careful, but "safe enough" just doesn't seem right in a box w/150 or 200 amps. :no: I can't see having to add a breaker so urgently that you can't wait until you can turn off the main.

I'd view adding a hot breaker like changing out a switch while the line is hot. Can it be done? Sure. Would a DIYer do it, nope. Would a pro? Not likely. Would someone that thinks they're a pro but hasn't been bitten enough time to actually be a pro do it? Probably. At least that's how the pros I know describe it to me. :laughing:

baum 09-01-2009 11:07 AM

My question is how do i have the power company come and pull the socket and get the final electrical inspection at the same time?

we currently live in the house so we cant go without power.

WaldenL 09-01-2009 11:13 AM

When I say "change it hot" and I _think_ what Scuba Dave means is w/out turning off the main breaker. I don't mean having to pull the meter. If you're prepared you should be able to kill the power by flipping the main breaker, add and wire the new breaker and turn the power back on in < 5 minutes.

baum 09-01-2009 11:16 AM

Will there be an accessible shut-off on the meter one where i can just flip a switch or will the electric comapny need to do it? like do i need to break there little wire tag they put on?

WaldenL 09-01-2009 11:22 AM

OK, just re-read the thread. There is no main breaker? I can't believe that. Can you post a screen shot of the main box? There's got to be some sort of disconnect either in the box, or ideally, by the meter. But it should not be inside the meter. We're taking about something that would be accessible to the Common Joe.


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