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12-11-2007, 11:31 AM
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Electrician Apprentice
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Box height?
My boss asked me to nail receptacle outlet box(s) 18in from the floor, the problem is when he checked my work, he said the box(s) are to low. (I measured to the middle of the box.)
The question is, do you measure from the floor to the middle of the box or the bottom of the box?
Last edited by puma1277; 12-11-2007 at 12:23 PM.
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12-11-2007, 11:40 AM
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Box height?
You do it however the boss says.
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12-11-2007, 12:16 PM
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Eibwen
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Box height?
As Jogr says!
Normal is 18 inches aff to the box center.
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12-11-2007, 02:16 PM
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Licensed Electrical Cont.
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Box height?
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Originally Posted by Sammy
Normal is 18 inches aff to the box center.
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There is NO "normal". It's whatever you are used to doing or are told to do.
For new work I use 16" TTT (to the top) for general receptacles and 48" TTT for general switches.
In a renovation I match whatever exists.
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12-11-2007, 02:56 PM
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Eibwen
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Box height?
Some people use hammer handle lengths too...
Just dont get two guys in the same room setting boxes with different length hammers....
The "normal" looks pretty good!
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12-11-2007, 03:44 PM
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Box height?
My boss has very few words (and yes, he's a  Hole), when he asked me to put the box(s) 18in from the floor I assumed the measurement is from the floor to the center of the box.
Should I be measuring from floor to Top, Center, or Bottom 
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12-11-2007, 03:52 PM
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Box height?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy
Just dont get two guys in the same room setting boxes with different length hammers....
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How about on the same job....
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12-11-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by puma1277
Should I be measuring from floor to Top, Center, or Bottom |
Yes.
What ever your boss tells you.
If he gets mad tell him you don't read minds and to give you more detail next time.
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12-11-2007, 03:58 PM
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If he gets mad tell him you don't read minds and to give you more detail next time.
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Good advise Speedy, Thanks 
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12-11-2007, 04:35 PM
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Eibwen
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Box height?
As long as they are in different rooms the hammers will work out fine!
But Puma, if you REALLY want to mess with your boss, tell him you were setting the boxes that height to be ADA compliant... They require 15 inch minimum and dont really specify bottom or center of the box...
You were just HELPIN him!
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12-11-2007, 04:58 PM
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Electrician philosopher
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Puma,
The guy is being a jerk. At my shop it is 18" to center and 46" to center.
If you and I were wiring a house, it would be the bottom of the box to the top of a 20 oz. Estwing hammer (of which we both would own) and 48" to the top.
The fact is the guy could be talking top, center, or bottom and be correct in his world which you get to live in for 8 hours. 
Andy
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12-11-2007, 05:02 PM
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My boss has very few words (and yes, he's a Hole), |
No he's not, he hired you which was a pretty nice thing to do - right? He might be demanding, but he is the boss, he is accountable for his work (and yours) and has to make sure it's done right and that the company makes a good profit on it.
Now maybe he doesn't always know what you know and don't know, maybe he doesn't like to talk a lot and maybe he wouldn't get many style points but you can adapt to all that. Just ask short to the point questions about anything you aren't sure of. When he says "put these boxes in 18" high" that's your cue to say "right boss, 18" to the center of the box". He'll growl "no, to the top" and it will be ok cause that will be the last time you'll ever ask that question and he'll get his boxes where he wants them the first time.
Whatever you do don't beat around the bush and make a long winded speech about possible box heights, codes and your uncertainty about what he's asking. He's not there to gab and neither are you. And don't be the clueless new kid who is always trying to change the way things are done - you can do that later when they don't think of you as the clueless new kid. Once you've worked for him a while you'll probably find that you think he's pretty reasonable.
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12-11-2007, 05:17 PM
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Licensed Electrical Cont.
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Box height?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy
As long as they are in different rooms the hammers will work out fine!
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I hope this is a joke.
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12-11-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jogr
No he's not, he hired you which was a pretty nice thing to do - right? He might be demanding, but he is the boss, he is accountable for his work (and yours) and has to make sure it's done right and that the company makes a good profit on it.
Now maybe he doesn't always know what you know and don't know, maybe he doesn't like to talk a lot and maybe he wouldn't get many style points but you can adapt to all that. Just ask short to the point questions about anything you aren't sure of. When he says "put these boxes in 18" high" that's your cue to say "right boss, 18" to the center of the box". He'll growl "no, to the top" and it will be ok cause that will be the last time you'll ever ask that question and he'll get his boxes where he wants them the first time.
Whatever you do don't beat around the bush and make a long winded speech about possible box heights, codes and your uncertainty about what he's asking. He's not there to gab and neither are you. And don't be the clueless new kid who is always trying to change the way things are done - you can do that later when they don't think of you as the clueless new kid. Once you've worked for him a while you'll probably find that you think he's pretty reasonable.
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Jogr, you very well may be right...or maybe he IS just an ahole! 
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12-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy in ATL
Jogr, you very well may be right...or maybe he IS just an ahole! |
My thoughts exactly.
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