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draconius 08-25-2012 02:15 AM

Black/Red/White and Ground question...URGENT HELP!!!!
 
I took down an interior wall at the entry way that included a 2 gang (2 romex entrering) with two switches (one for the entry light, and one for the exterior sconce). When I tore down the wall it had two romex exiting the box (One to the rest of the floor wiring, and one to an outlet). When I relocated the switch box I relocated the outlet to below the outlet, but did not have a switch to control that outlet. So I now had 2 romex coming in, and 1 romex "leaving" the gang box. I want to make sure that I wired it all correctly....it is working, but at the same time...is it wired to code!

Here is an attempted diagram.

Main romex coming in has (M.color):
- BLACK/RED/WHITE and GROUND

Romex from outside light has (EL.color):
- BLACK/WHITE/ and GROUND

Romex "leaving" the box to the outlet has (O.Color):
- BLACK/WHITE and GROUND

I wired it as such:
M.Red to "hot" switch
EL.Black to "hot" switch

M.White, EL.White, and O.White all wire nutted and not connected to any switch

M.Ground, EL.Ground, O.Ground, Switch.Grounds all wire nutted.

M.Black, O.Black, Switch.Black, and Switch.Black are all wire nutted.

Additionally here is a picture: (Yes I need to clean it up....I actually have to make the 4 wire romex longer so it will actually be going to a junction box to get "longer") Hopefully you can decipher from the picture...

http://upload.spankdu.com/images/1ml...cap6cun26k.jpg



The way it is wired now, all switches work perfectly and outlets have full power, microwave is working, etc. I do not want to have the "it's working, I did it!" and later realize I broke some nasty wiring codes. :eek:

AllanJ 08-25-2012 07:48 AM

How did it used to be connected?

I judge that you wired it up correctly. There was only one piece of guesswork, in the M cable which of the wires (black or red) was the power feed and which was the lead to one of the lights. Since it works correctly, you made the correct guess.

There is no rule saying red should be for some specific things and black for other specific things.

By the way:

Only 1/4 inch of cable jacket should protrude into the box and the separate wires should be about 8 inches long.

The cables should be stapled or harnessed to the studs or go into a hole in the stud to the next stud bay within 8 inches of the box (within 12 inches if the box has a clamp or finger holding the cable end in place). At staplings the cables must be at least 1-1/4" in from the stud edges.

Suggested that, with the bundle of wires with the ends pointing at you, you twist them clockwise since that is the same way you twist on the wire nut.

andrew79 08-25-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanJ
How did it used to be connected?

I judge that you wired it up correctly. There was only one piece of guesswork, in the M cable which of the wires (black or red) was the power feed and which was the lead to one of the lights. Since it works correctly, you made the correct guess.

There is no rule saying red should be for some specific things and black for other specific things.

By the way:

Only 1/4 inch of cable jacket should protrude into the box and the separate wires should be about 8 inches long.

The cables should be stapled or harnessed to the studs or go into a hole in the stud to the next stud bay within 8 inches of the box (within 12 inches if the box has a clamp or finger holding the cable end in place). At staplings the cables must be at least 1-1/4" in from the stud edges.

Suggested that, with the bundle of wires with the ends pointing at you, you twist them clockwise since that is the same way you twist on the wire nut.

I'll bet he's a lefty. It took me awhile to get used to twisting my joints the "right" way.

draconius 08-25-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanJ (Post 995889)
How did it used to be connected?

I judge that you wired it up correctly. There was only one piece of guesswork, in the M cable which of the wires (black or red) was the power feed and which was the lead to one of the lights. Since it works correctly, you made the correct guess.

There is no rule saying red should be for some specific things and black for other specific things.

By the way:

Only 1/4 inch of cable jacket should protrude into the box and the separate wires should be about 8 inches long.

The cables should be stapled or harnessed to the studs or go into a hole in the stud to the next stud bay within 8 inches of the box (within 12 inches if the box has a clamp or finger holding the cable end in place). At staplings the cables must be at least 1-1/4" in from the stud edges.

Suggested that, with the bundle of wires with the ends pointing at you, you twist them clockwise since that is the same way you twist on the wire nut.

Thanks for the assistance! I am going to be cleaning it up BIG time to look nicer and safer for wire knowledge...

The 4 wire romex I need to extend by way of junction box because otherwise the old 4 wire romex brings the switches to eye level! :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79 (Post 995957)
I'll bet he's a lefty. It took me awhile to get used to twisting my joints the "right" way.

I'm a righty...I was just angsty because the wires kept snapping due to age...anti-clockwise with clockwise wire nuts are not advisable and realized that after I got everything to work... :P


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