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Old 09-18-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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Oh boy......guess you don't want to hear how burning an incandescent bulb puts more mecury in the air than CFL's......

Care to guess what one of the elements is used to make LED's? Arsnic......

I'm quite happy with my CFL's.....
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Be happy with your CFL's but do not force me to use or like them.
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Be happy with your CFL's but do not force me to use or like them.
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Better stock up.
I already have

I figure the closer we get to the cut off dates, the prices on the incandescents will go up.
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Lighting efficiency is somewhat of a hobby of mine.....

I've been following both CFL and LED technology......truth is....while LED's do offer advantages over CFL's...like turn on time and low temp performance....I do not think LED's are the holy grail of lighting.

Right now the current batch of LED lights are maybe 10% more efficient than CFL's.....but then again, a T5 bulb has about a 20% advantage over the LED.....

When you look at the 'published' life of an LED light being around 25K hours.....with a $40+ price tag.....you can buy 3 CFL's and still come out way ahead on total savings.....

Too much bad news is made of the mecury in CFL's.....funny, no one complains about the mecury in the tubes....

In the 10-12 years I have been using CFL's, I have never broken one.....and have had only one fail......I've learned to not stock up on CFL's.....they just sit on the shelf unused.....

I still think the perfect bulb is waiting to be invented......until then....I'm happy with my CFL's, T5's & T8's.
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In the 10-12 years I have been using CFL's, I have never broken one.....and have had only one fail......
I wish I were that lucky. I think the CFLs use deceptive advertising on the packaging as most state they will last (up to) 7 years. I don't think I have got more than two years out of any CFL bulb that we use on a daily basis - but that is much longer than we would get out of an incandescent bulb in the same fixture.

We have only broken one CFL bulb. My daughter was messing around in the garage and hit one with a basketball. We did have one burn out on us. I got really dim and started to smell burnt. The white plastic between where the bulb enters/exits the base was all burnt.

I have been using CFLs for at least five years. In that time, our electricity usage has increased. But we also now have two teenage daughters.
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CFLs are awesome when they break and then you turn them on. Been there done that. Don't know how bad for my health that was, but it was cool.
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My attitude is...

1. Stop telling me what to doin my own house.
2. I couldn't care less about efficiency, I hate the light put out by CFLs and LEDs.
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1. Stop telling me what to doin my own house.
2. I couldn't care less about efficiency, I hate the light put out by CFLs and LEDs.

Not a problem Andrew....this is America....you can use what ever light and as many of them as you want....no one is telling you what to use....as long as your paying your own bill.

Funny thing about the color of CFL's.....a common complaint is the light....but with the newer bulbs, a good majority of people can't tell the difference. You have to put them side by side.....and even then, if they are already on and in a fixture....most people can't tell the difference.

And, no, you can't see the flicker....not unless your eyes can see 40KHz or higher....
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Not a problem Andrew....this is America....you can use what ever light and as many of them as you want....no one is telling you what to use....as long as your paying your own bill.

That comment wasn't directed at you. I was more speaking to the U.S. Government..have you not heard about the impending ban on incandescents?

Am I terrible for wanting my incandescents to be more inefficient just out of spite?
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That comment wasn't directed at you. I was more speaking to the U.S. Government..have you not heard about the impending ban on incandescents?

Am I terrible for wanting my incandescents to be more inefficient just out of spite?
I realize that....

And...yes...very aware of the 'ban'....which is not really a ban, but rather a set of standards that bulb manufactures must meet.....akin to the CAFE standards for car mileage.

Your sentiments are quite common....people don't like being told what they can use or can't use....I'm somewhat the same way.....but then again, I'm also a nut for efficiency....

I built a garage 2 years ago...2-story garage.....downstairs I have 16 6" cans with CFL's in them. What I like is that I have a lot more options with the CFL's vs incandescents.....I don't like the yellow color the typical warm white incan gives you....for working in the garage, I prefer the daylight color of CFL's....I also like the fact that my average electric bill is in the $45 range for most of the year.....(gas water heater and gas HVAC)....and my gas bill last month was $17.

My wife used to hate CFL's....then one day I replaced the bulb in one of the floor lamps with a CFL.....6 months later she realized it was a CFL only because she was giving it a clean....that ended her dislike.....
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And people better stop buying Gold Jewelry, due to the processes used for manufacturing. That along with all of the ozone that is released when doing laundry.
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And people better stop buying Gold Jewelry, due to the processes used for manufacturing. That along with all of the ozone that is released when doing laundry.
For this reason, I stopped washing my clothes years ago. Not sure why nobody ever visits me...

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