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Old 01-13-2008, 06:05 AM   #16
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This is just from the books I have read but they have said you do want GFCI protection for a light above the shower. That is why I planned to use the GFCI in the same circuit. However this info came from a book maybe not what is done out in real houses.

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Old 01-13-2008, 08:23 AM   #17
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I don't like running the light circuit through the GFCI outlet in the bath due to the tripping issue and being in the dark. I would run the light/fan line out of a GFCI breaker in the panel so both were protected. Is this overkill? Probably. Does it cost more to do? Yes.
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I've never seen a recessed light that required GFI protection, even if installed over a shower or tub.

I never seen a fan that did not require GFI protection if installed over a tub or shower.
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Pete .,, i know you for quite a while but i just dont want to start a " flame " war with ya but i go the info and it did mention clearshot requried GFCI above shower.

here the http://www.nutone.com/product-detail...roductID=10158
exhaust fan you will see it clear on it.

but if mounted away from shower area yeah i agree with you on this part.


did you get any big snowstorm in your area yet ??

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I had a feeling that might get misinterpreted.

What I meant was every bath fan I have seen HAS had a label requiring GFI protection IF installed over a tub or shower.

I think the double negative threw you off.


No, no snow yet. Late this evening into all day tomorrow. Can anyone say...SNOW DAY!
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Darn foreigners.

Just kidding, Marc
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Ok, so it sounds like we are all agreed then. Using the GFI circuit (if it does not leave the room), wire the lights unprotected, and the fan protected. Sound good to everyone else?
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I had a feeling that might get misinterpreted.

What I meant was every bath fan I have seen HAS had a label requiring GFI protection IF installed over a tub or shower.

I think the double negative threw you off.


No, no snow yet. Late this evening into all day tomorrow. Can anyone say...SNOW DAY!

I guess so and we are pretty much on the right track as related to this bloody fan lol.

even i install the exhaust fan where there is no bathtub or shower in that room and i dont bother install the GFCI on it.

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Old 01-15-2008, 04:58 PM   #24
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I'm remodeling and rewiring my house and have this same question. Just this morning I looked through my residential 2005 NEC (pocket guide) and only saw where a bathroom needs to have a dedicated 20A circuit for the "receptacle(s)" located within 3 feet of the edge of the basin....blah, blah blah. It referenced another section for lighting so I assumed "receptacle" to mean the "plug".

Did I mis-interpret the term "receptacle"? The Fan GFI question aside, having a fan and light on the same 20A circuit (not leaving the bathroom) as the plug(s) is code compliant (2005 NEC)?

How about a ceiling heater? Maynot be good design, but is it code compliant to install a fan/heater on that same circuit?
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Technically yes. Does the heater require a dedicated circuit in its instructions? If so, then by definition, it must have a dedicated circuit. "Outlets" are outlets the world around. Read your pocket book.


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Did I mis-interpret the term "receptacle"?
YES. A receptacle is a receptacle. It's NOT a plug.
Think of the literal meaning: A place you put something.
A plug is on the end of the cord. A receptacle is where it plugs in.

Most every ceiling heater I have installed DID spec a dedicated circuit, many specifying 15 amp. This type of fan/heater CANNOT be on with the receptacle circuit.
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Speedy-
thanks for the reply. For the bathroom with a heater I have two 20A circuits planned, one for the duplex recptacles and the other for the heater. I have a couple of other lights in the same bathroom that I wanted to run off one of those two circuits. Looks like I'll use the duplex recptacle circuit for those.

My question with the heater was more curiosity as to what the code allows. Whether the device required it or not, I would run a separate circuit for the heater. I just know my wife would be crankin' the bathroom heater while drying her hair.......
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I just know my wife would be crankin' the bathroom heater while drying her hair.......
Yup! That's definitely the logic.
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I thought others might want to go that route also. That is why I posted. I plan to run my GFCI to the lights also. This way they have GFCI protection. I think that is important.
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Couldn't you just put the whole bath circuit on a GFCI breaker?

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