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Old 05-27-2013, 11:02 PM   #31
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Is being shocked in a properly bonded pool truly impossible or just improbable?


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Actually you most certainly CAN be shocked



Of course you can !

If your standing in ANY voltage gradient you can be shocked !
Voltage gradients can exist in water as well as on land.

Electricity travels thru water,
so if you get between the source (pool light)
and it's return point (earthed ladder)
Then you will get shocked.

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Old 05-27-2013, 11:18 PM   #32
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Actually you most certainly CAN be shocked and I speak from experience where a group of us were shocked and our friend died in front of us because of a malfunction with the underwater lights in an inground pool. What we felt was most definitely more than a tingling, and we were standing in the middle of the shallow end, touching nothing.
I found this site while researching being shocked by pool ladders, as my you g daughter is complaining of being shocked by the ladder at the swim club we belong to...apparently she isn't imagining it.
Wow. I'm very sorry that happened to you. There have not been very many incidents like that in swimming pools because the safety features usually prevent it even when equipment fails, but there have been enough cases that it is well documented. There have been more incidents at marinas because they lack the safety features of swimming pools. "Electric shock drowning" is a freshwater-only phenomenon, because it only happens when the water is not very conductive compared to the person's body. It may seem backwards, but highly conductive salt water is fairly safe even if there is a lot of current flowing through the water.

If your daughter is noticing any shock at all in the pool, there is a serious problem. The difference between a minor tingle and an incident like the one you were involved in is pretty much just luck and circumstance. I would not ever swim in any water where I noticed any electrical sensation at all.
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Actually you most certainly CAN be shocked and I speak from experience where a group of us were shocked and our friend died in front of us because of a malfunction with the underwater lights in an inground pool. What we felt was most definitely more than a tingling, and we were standing in the middle of the shallow end, touching nothing.
I found this site while researching being shocked by pool ladders, as my you g daughter is complaining of being shocked by the ladder at the swim club we belong to...apparently she isn't imagining it.
Normally I wouldn't respond to a thread this old, but in the interest of safety I will. First a few questions;


Since this is a public pool, I have a few comments;

1. The local electrical inspector is required to perform an electrical inspection every year. This is called an annual pool inspection and is required by the UCC.

2. Every five years the owner is required to obtain a bonding certification from a licensed electrical contractor.

All this being said, call the local electrical inspector and notify him of your concerns. Then call the board of health.

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I can't help but wonder if we are getting the whole story. All too often people want to blame one thing when in fact something else was going on.

Case in point....the Toyota stuck accelerator issue.....while it was a real issue...a majority of the cases was more of a case of the wrong foot on the wrong peddle...but it was easier to blame the car.
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MPoultin did a wonderful write up on Electric Shock Drowning (ESD).

The hazards are boats, docks or marinas, and electric Irrigation pumps.

No, you don't have to be standing or touch something. You can be shocked by the difference in potential.

The shock doesn't necessarily kill the person. All it has to due is disrupt their swimming ability enough that they drown.

If anything, ESD has been under reported for many years. Postmortem exams show that the person drowned, not what caused them to drown.
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Watch http://www.mikeholt.com/strayVoltageVideo.php , It doesn't deal with all the issues discussed here but it really helped me understand the root cause of these problems and why grounding alone doesn't solve them. Anybody see any errors in Mike's logic, I'd like to know about it.

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