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mid-rise9 01-04-2013 01:41 AM

bathroom fan location without GFCI
 
I posted this in the HVAC forum but I just realized this is probably the proper place for it.

I'm installing a bathroom fan where there never was one before, on an 8' ceiling. It's a new Broan 744C fan with light. When used on a GFCI-protected circuit, this fan is allowed even in the shower ceiling. But I will be wiring it off a non-GFCI circuit. So are there any minimal distance requirements from the edge of the tub/shower? Since codes may vary by location, I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
Thanks.

ddawg16 01-04-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mid-rise9 (Post 1085762)
I posted this in the HVAC forum but I just realized this is probably the proper place for it.

I'm installing a bathroom fan where there never was one before, on an 8' ceiling. It's a new Broan 744C fan with light. When used on a GFCI-protected circuit, this fan is allowed even in the shower ceiling. But I will be wiring it off a non-GFCI circuit. So are there any minimal distance requirements from the edge of the tub/shower? Since codes may vary by location, I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
Thanks.

If there are....I'm most likley in trouble.

Hopefully the experts like Kbuz, Sparky or Electures will chime in.....but I believe that as long as there are no user accessible connections (like an outlet), it can be on any ckt.

Of course, it could be different in Canada....

frenchelectrican 01-04-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mid-rise9 (Post 1085762)
I posted this in the HVAC forum but I just realized this is probably the proper place for it.

I'm installing a bathroom fan where there never was one before, on an 8' ceiling. It's a new Broan 744C fan with light. When used on a GFCI-protected circuit, this fan is allowed even in the shower ceiling. But I will be wiring it off a non-GFCI circuit. So are there any minimal distance requirements from the edge of the tub/shower? Since codes may vary by location, I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
Thanks.

That part I am pretty sure if you keep the exhaust fan out of the shower/tub area you don't need GFCI at all unless it is required in your local codes.

I know in USA side it typically anytime out of the tub or shower area it don't need the GFCI protection unless you are in the shower or tub footprint then you have to use the GFCI.

Merci,
Marc

k_buz 01-04-2013 07:00 AM

I understand that this is a CEC issue, but I will chime in with this one bit of clarification for our US DIYers.

There is no NEC code to GFI protect a exhaust fan over a tub/shower. That is a manufacturer requirement you can find in most (if not all) exhaust fan instructions.

jeffnc 01-04-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 1085816)
There is no NEC code to GFI protect a exhaust fan over a tub/shower. That is a manufacturer requirement you can find in most (if not all) exhaust fan instructions.

It has a light, so it's considered a light, which could make a difference.

k_buz 01-04-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffnc

It has a light, so it's considered a light, which could make a difference.

There is no code (NEC) that requires lights above showers to be GFI protected.

jeffnc 01-04-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 1086101)
There is no code (NEC) that requires lights above showers to be GFI protected.

I was implying manufacturer's instructions and local codes. Point being, it's not just a "fan". People reach up to change light bulbs, so some codes are different.


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