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buildit45 08-31-2012 01:30 PM

Basement Finish Bathroom
I am running a 20 amp circuit for a bathroom with one GFI, Light, and a Fan. As I run the line from the panel I have come to a fork in the road and need to splice the circuit so one run goes to the GFI and the other run goes to the light and fan.

At this fork in the road I have another outlet on a different circuit, can I put this one outlet(on a different circuit) into a 2 gang box and then run my splice through this 2 gang box and then cover with 1 Duplex 1 Blank Cover plate?

Or do I have to use a metal box to make the splice?


kevinp22 08-31-2012 02:01 PM

yes, you can assuming the box is big enough for all those connections (a 2 gang box should be)

the grounds should all be tied together.

the neutrals and hots for the 2 different circuits must be kept separate.

buildit45 08-31-2012 04:23 PM

The circuits will enter in on opposite sides, so what you are saying is that the grounds from circuit 1 and circuit 2 need to be connected? Then of course the hot and the neutral will stay on their respective sides in the box.

kevinp22 08-31-2012 04:29 PM

yes. the following grounds would be connected (I assume the box is non metallic)

Incoming circuit cable for new circuit
2 outgoing circuit cables for new circuit
Incoming circuit cable for old circuit
Pigtail wire to receptacle

Either join the 5 wires together under one properly sized wireneut or run have 3 under one nut and 2 under the other and run a jumper wire between the 2 (resulting in one wire nut with 4 wires and one with 3).

mikegp 08-31-2012 09:27 PM

Out of curiosity, what would happen if he didn't connect the neutrals from the two circuits? Having a hard time figuring that out.

kevinp22 08-31-2012 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by mikegp (Post 1000767)
Out of curiosity, what would happen if he didn't connect the neutrals from the two circuits? Having a hard time figuring that out.

you mean grounds, correct? neutrals must be separate

if neutrals were connected together
1. any afci or gfci circuit breakers for these circuits would auto-trip
2. if the two circuits are on the same phase, the neutrals could be dangerously overloaded
3. if on opposite phases, it becomes a poorly designed MWBC

if the grounds are NOT connected together - under normal circumstances, nothing will happen. under fault conditions, interconnected grounds provides an even better low resistance path back to the panel.

mikegp 08-31-2012 09:36 PM

I'm sorry, I did mean grounds. Thanks.

NECHater 09-01-2012 09:34 AM

Why do you need to split the circuit at this location? Why not just run the circuit all the way to the new receptacle location and then jump it over to the new switch location? It may require a bit more cable, but we're probably only talking a couple dollars.

buildit45 09-01-2012 10:33 AM

Just trying to avoid doubling back, more cable and more holes to drill. I already have other circuits running in both direction so I would have to make more holes so all the wires fit. The splice would be in the HVAC room so it will not bee seen.

NECHater 09-01-2012 10:35 AM

If you really want to split it and it's going to be in a mechanical room, just use a new box. Why deal with the old one at all?

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