Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-08-2008, 11:57 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


As I'm pondering the needs for my barn, I have a code question or a general safety question. I plan on running PVC conduit through out the barn for all my power needs. Is it legal and safe to pull single wires for the power instead of using Romex? I/E 1 hot wire, 1 neutral wire and a ground wire as separate wires? Any help would be greatly appreciated gentleman.

houstonbrama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:05 AM   #2
UAW SKILLED TRADES
 
Stubbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,039
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Certainly it's ok to pull individual wires in conduit. In fact that is what is preferred. Romex was never intended to be pulled through conduit systems.

Stubbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:11 AM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Thanks Stubbie. That's good info and good news. That's what I was hoping to hear. Single strand is so much cheaper than romex. Have you any experience with the AFCI (arc fault circuit inter.) I know their a bit expensive, but so far I have $18,678 into the barn. So a little extra for some security is worth it, IF these things actually are worth the money.
houstonbrama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:19 AM   #4
UAW SKILLED TRADES
 
Stubbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,039
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Afci is a hot issue and IMO yet to be proven as a 'fire' saver. That said the fellows that write our NEC code book have expanded the required use of afci protection. My personal opinion is save your money use gfci where required and wait for school to get over as for the afci's.
Stubbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:22 AM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Yea, I guess if they prove that they are what they say they are then I can easily upgrade. Excellent, thanks again.
houstonbrama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:23 AM   #6
Power Gen/RS Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oak Park, Illinois
Posts: 751
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Why AFCI in a barn to begin with? I'm assuming that the kids haven't been sent there??!
__________________
Well, now, there's what's right and what's right and never the twain shall meet.
BigJimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:25 AM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 24
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Well, there's lots of combustible stuff in a barn. So if there's any arcing, it won't take long for it to be reduced to a charcoal pit. and from what I've read about these things they will trip as quick as a GFCI.
houstonbrama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:31 AM   #8
Power Gen/RS Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oak Park, Illinois
Posts: 751
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


Quote:
Originally Posted by houstonbrama View Post
Well, there's lots of combustible stuff in a barn. So if there's any arcing, it won't take long for it to be reduced to a charcoal pit. and from what I've read about these things they will trip as quick as a GFCI.
Not quite as quickly as a GFCI however they are designed to trip on an arc "signature." I understand your question as well as your concern. Listen to the Stub-master. I agree whole-heartedly with his rec. Then again, it all boils down to what you are comfortable with! Take care!

Jimmy
__________________
Well, now, there's what's right and what's right and never the twain shall meet.
BigJimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 01:12 AM   #9
UAW SKILLED TRADES
 
Stubbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,039
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Barn wireing and conduit question????


When I review the nfpa records I do not see any appreciable statistics that lend me to think that homes protected by afci burn down less frequently than than those that do not have afci.

If one remembers when afci's first came out they would not detect a series arc fault and frequent nuisance tripping was common. Now a combination type afci is required on bedrooom branch circuits. This type of afci detects series arcs, parallel arcs and ground fault arcs. So if you use afci use combination type as series arcing is frequently found to cause fires. In a nutshell I do not think the technology is well proven at this point in time.

Stubbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.