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Old 03-14-2008, 07:58 AM   #16
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I have that but I was told it was changed because of so much trouble with false tripping of the breakers. I'm sooooo confused.
Code isnt easy to understand sometimes!

I try not to rely on what people say, especially if I can't verify it in the code.

Read that article, it outlines alot of changes.

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Maybe I should have clarified this earlier:

~ I'm installing Minka radio controlled ceiling fans.
~ Everything has been assembled correctly. The tripping is coming from the sudden change in voltage that ARC suspects from the radio frequency. It thinks it's a fault in wiring.
~ I was told by Minka that the safest bet was to go pull chain, however gawdy they are.

Now any thoughts?

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You can go with pull chain fan/lights, as long as the room has a switched light of some kind already.
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Maybe I should have clarified this earlier:

~ I'm installing Minka radio controlled ceiling fans.
~ Everything has been assembled correctly. The tripping is coming from the sudden change in voltage that ARC suspects from the radio frequency. It thinks it's a fault in wiring.
~ I was told by Minka that the safest bet was to go pull chain, however gawdy they are.

Now any thoughts?

-J.
Does pulling the chain solve the tripping problem? If so, this is an interesting case.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:21 AM   #20
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In the 2008 edition, EVERYTHING has to be arc fault (for a bedroom at least). Lights, smokes, etc.
Everything in the bedroom (withand exception) had to be AFCI in the 05 code also.

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Changing the Arc Fault Breaker to a regular breaker is not as bad as screwing a nickel into the base of a blown screw in fuse, but its covered in the same book.

Like was stated before, its tripping for a reason. Better figure out why.
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Changing the Arc Fault Breaker to a regular breaker is not as bad as screwing a nickel into the base of a blown screw in fuse, but its covered in the same book.

Like was stated before, its tripping for a reason. Better figure out why.
You must have come from a well to do family. We used pennies.
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I have that but I was told it was changed because of so much trouble with false tripping of the breakers. I'm sooooo confused.
There is no problem with false tripping, only problems with people doing crappy electrical work...
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There is no problem with false tripping, only problems with people doing crappy electrical work...
I ran into a funny one last year. While replacing a ballast in a kitchen light, the lady of the house asked me to take out that junk gf whatever it's called in the bathroom by the sink, and put in a real receptacle. She said the damn thing hasn't worked since it was installed 2 years ago during the bathroom remodel. Never did work she said. I pulled it out and discovered a ground wire laying against the neutral screw. I was amazed they lived with it not working for 2 years, blaming it on that junk gf whatever it's called.
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JAutumna, if your fan's remote control transceiver and receiver have settable DIP switches, try a completely different switch setting - the same setting in each - which will change the remore control's frequency. Definitely a longshot suggestion here, but it may help.

Certain remote controlled objects can adversely affect other things in the vicinity, e.g. a fan, when switched to a higher or lower speed or on or off, will cause a loud crack or pop in a TV or radio, possibly even a channel change.

You have nothing to lose by trying another setting, other than some time.

I hope you find a suitable resolution to your problem.
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You must have come from a well to do family. We used pennies.
We saved the pennies to sell for scrap copper so that we trade them in for more nickels. The nickels take longer to burn out.
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There is no problem with false tripping, only problems with people doing crappy electrical work...
What type of breakers are you using Chris? I have had several arc fault breakers that gave me trouble, ended up replacing them with another arc fault breaker to clear up the problem(I hope).
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I had the same problem with AFCI tripping a heavy duty treadmill 15A motor. Funny thing was that it was never when under load, it would only happen on initial power-up.. before the "thread" was every put into motion. After pulling the cover off, I noticed it had a nice big cap and I believe it was an in-rush issue. I changed out the breaker for a non-afci breaker and that fixed the problem. A few years later we moved it to another room and once again needed to change the breaker. I have another friend that had the same issue with a refrigerator.. he was not comfortable with changing the breaker so instead he has a radio on the same circuit an if the radio goes off he know to reset the breaker.. what a PIA!
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What type of breakers are you using Chris? I have had several arc fault breakers that gave me trouble, ended up replacing them with another arc fault breaker to clear up the problem(I hope).

I only use GE, and I have never once had a call back...

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