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beech 10-04-2009 06:50 PM

Anything wrong with putting an electrical box in a kitchen cupboard
 
Is it OK to have an outlet on the bottom of an upper kitchen cupboard with the box inside the cupboard? I want to use it to power under cabinet lighting. Thanks

220/221 10-04-2009 07:12 PM

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Is it OK to have an outlet on the bottom of an upper kitchen cupboard with the box inside the cupboard?

.....Yes

Speedy Petey 10-04-2009 08:17 PM

Sure. This is done all the time for over-the-range microwaves.

Just don't pull power from the counter receptacles. That is expressly forbidden by code.

beech 10-04-2009 09:09 PM

thank you

kbsparky 10-04-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 336429)
...Just don't pull power from the counter receptacles. That is expressly forbidden by code.

I have to disagree with you on this. IF the receptacle is mounted under the cabinet, and is within reach of the counter-top, it must be on a SA circuit.

It is not forbidden to plug an under cabinet light into any SA outlet, only if it is direct-wired does the Code have any say-so on which circuit it should or should not be connected to.

vsheetz 10-04-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kbsparky (Post 336455)
I have to disagree with you on this. IF the receptacle is mounted under the cabinet, and is within reach of the counter-top, it must be on a SA circuit.

It is not forbidden to plug an under cabinet light into any SA outlet, only if it is direct-wired does the Code have any say-so on which circuit it should or should not be connected to.

What is a SA circuit/outlet - GFCI protected?

Scuba_Dave 10-04-2009 09:38 PM

Isn't any receptacle within x inches above the countertop required to be on the SA circuit ? Barring dedicated circuits for MW/hood etc

SA = small appliance

Found it....

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However it looks like I can install a 15A circuit for a TV above 5 1/2 feet? See 210.52, specifcally "in addition to any receptacle that is: (4) Located more than 1.7m (5 1/2ft) above the floor" 210.52(B) seems to apply to "counter top" outlets.

vsheetz 10-04-2009 09:41 PM

I installed the outlet to power my low voltage undercabinet lights in the wall / back of the short cabinets above the combo microwave / cooktop hood.

Speedy Petey 10-05-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kbsparky (Post 336455)
I have to disagree with you on this. IF the receptacle is mounted under the cabinet, and is within reach of the counter-top, it must be on a SA circuit.

It is not forbidden to plug an under cabinet light into any SA outlet, only if it is direct-wired does the Code have any say-so on which circuit it should or should not be connected to.

I see I was wrong. I guess I misread the OP. Hence my comment about OTR micros.
I thought they want to install this receptacle IN the upper cabinet, not under it.
I retract my previous comment. :whistling2:


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