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Old 04-02-2008, 09:46 AM   #16
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While were on the subject...

Has anyone seen my 35 year-old pair of red 8" Klein dikes? Damn-it! it's been like two weeks now.

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Klein,T&B, Ideal, Greenlee,...each one has it's strong and week points.

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Old 04-02-2008, 12:45 PM   #17
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The Chinese are really good at making junk that looks just like a quality item. Inferior steel and heat treating look pretty much the same as high quality. It's when you use them that you find the difference. I use my tools to make money. It would be foolish and short sighted to buy junk in my opinion.

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Has anyone seen my 35 year-old pair of red 8" Klein dikes? Damn-it! it's been like two weeks now.
Have you moved the 10 foot step ladder yet? Put your hard hat on first.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:49 PM   #18
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While were on the subject...

Has anyone seen my 35 year-old pair of red 8" Klein dikes? Damn-it! it's been like two weeks now.

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Klein,T&B, Ideal, Greenlee,...each one has it's strong and week points.
Right here....



Oh wait, you said Klein Dikes, not Klondike. My bad.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:01 PM   #19
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stick with kline I dont want to look at made in china when working
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I work for Home Depot and can attest to the fact that CE is a far inferior brand to one like Klein. However, they do have their place. I purchased an 11 piece set on clearance for $9(originally $35) for about $60 worth of CE tools, the deal aside the tools work and will be fine for my DIY/friends projects . I plan to replace with Klein when I see what I really use, I haven't seen any difference in the key hole saws yet, but the Klein multi head drivers are well worth the $10 or $12. My Klein strippers that I already owned, definitely feel more natural in my hand. The 22-piece set for $60 is popular with the Tech school crowd, I think that is a fine place to start before you even know that you will earn any money as an electrician. I knew where the CE tools where made, but I too pissed when I saw that the "china" sticker is engraved.
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:40 PM   #21
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It am a facility manager and I have bought CE tools for use in our facility. I have a lot of volunteers that help on projects, so I don't feel all that bad when a tool walks off. Most of my personal lectrical tools are Greenlee. I think they are great! I do have Kleins, but the Greenlee just feel better. Hope this helps.
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The OP mentioned having a backup set of tools. In this case I say go for it. Also, Klein is not what they used to be. I know plenty electricians that have given up on Klein for one reason of the other. Ever tried to "break in" a pair of Klein side cutters (linesman's)? Not easy is it. It can take months.
While 90% of all my electrical tools are Klein, I plan to look elsewhere in the future. Especially for screw drivers. Klein screw drivers have really gone down big time. They don't last long at all. It would be foolish to not at least try what all the other trades guys are now using in place of Klein.
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And this post is almost 4 years old.
I would hope they have made up their mind about what tools to buy!!!!!
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Lowes in Atlanta is carrying Knipex. As good or better than Klein and nooooooo break in.
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The OP mentioned having a backup set of tools. In this case I say go for it. Also, Klein is not what they used to be. I know plenty electricians that have given up on Klein for one reason of the other. Ever tried to "break in" a pair of Klein side cutters (linesman's)? Not easy is it. It can take months.
While 90% of all my electrical tools are Klein, I plan to look elsewhere in the future. Especially for screw drivers. Klein screw drivers have really gone down big time. They don't last long at all. It would be foolish to not at least try what all the other trades guys are now using in place of Klein.
About 5 minutes with some WD-40 and some fine sand will loosen up a new set of Kleins.

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I have been using Klein's for 35 years. The only way to break them in is to work with them until. Until Until and Until. I have tried everything under the sun and nothing works but use and time. You got some magic sand or something. I am asking?
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I have been using Klein's for 35 years. The only way to break them in is to work with them until. Until Until and Until. I have tried everything under the sun and nothing works but use and time. You got some magic sand or something. I am asking?
I spray the joint with WD-40 and then dip them in very fine play sand (like for sand-boxes). It gets into the joint and loosens it up like sandpaper would. Really, it works, but takes 5-15 minutes of working the tool open-closed to work.

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I just picked up a small digital multimeter at Home Depot; a Commercial Electric MS8232B that I told the guy I wanted to be capable of testing Air Con capacitors. I still haven't figured out if they will, but they have a setting for Ohms or CAP that seems to measure nF, which I take to be nano farads.

Anyway I do not see where it says China on the meter. It may on the packaging, but as for quality control I would have liked to have been able to see the back of the meter before buying. Above the prominent verbage about avoiding electrical shock when replacing the two AAA batteries, in much larger case it reads "WARING". The goofs didn't realize there was an "N" in warning!
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nano farad is a very small capacitor, so does the instruction sheet list the scale ranges? Most capacitors will have their value stamped on them somewhere.
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nano farad is a very small capacitor, so does the instruction sheet list the scale ranges? Most capacitors will have their value stamped on them somewhere.
It was supposed to have a users manual but none was included and neiter was there an instruction sheet. It automaticaly scaled from nF to F when I used it this morning. Similarly, when reading ohms it begins with MΩ and quickly scales to KΩ or down to Ω.

I measured my dual capacitor and start capacitor. The Fan side of the dual read 10.41 F. but the Hermes side was a mere 1.91 nF. The start capacitor was even worse; 0.19 nF. I havenn't been able to read the ratings on them, yet, but I may have found my problem.


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