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bklynsoulja 12-26-2013 09:57 PM

any violation in painting electrical panel cover?
 
I know you can paint the electrical panel cover and you must cover the labels and stickers to prevent over spraying it which would be a violation. My question is that is it ok to paint the electrical panel cover both front and backside? Even though no one will ever see the backside of the electrical panel cover when put back on, I would like to know if it OK to paint the cover completely( both front and back side) when i remove the panel cover from the panel itself. Or is that considered internal once installed back on?

code
"Internal parts of electrical equipment, including busbars, wiring terminals, insulators, and other surface, shall not be damaged or contaminated by foreign materials such as paint, plaster, cleaners, abrasives, or corrosive residues. There shall be no damaged parts that may adversely affect safe operation or mechanical strength of the equipment such as parts that are broken; bent; cut; or deteriorated by corrosion, chemical action, or overheating."

Jim Port 12-26-2013 10:00 PM

The internal parts are the ones under the cover. As long as you do not cover any labels you should be fine.

gregzoll 12-26-2013 10:07 PM

It is if you paint it bright Pink or Purple. If you are going to have the Dead front painted, due to it is in really bad shape because of surface rust, or scratches, sand it first after you remove it from the panel.

While the Dead front is off, just make sure no one decides to get curious placing their hands inside the panel.

Onboard ship, we always painted the panels in spaces, to match the wall color of that space. We did mask the plate on the face of the panel, so that we could easily see the info that matched the panel with the drawings. Every now and then in the Supply or Airdale (Flight deck & hanger deck crew), you would find one of their panels with the designator plate painted over.

bklynsoulja 12-26-2013 10:17 PM

I am trying to restore this panel cover as it have alot of surface rust that i been scraping and sanding off. I don't know who took off the cover and left it to rust. Both front and back side of the cover is rusted badly. The panel itself is in good condition with no rust. I didn't want to leave the back side of the panel untouched even though no one will ever see it when installed i feel obligated to fully restore it as best as i can. I was just concerned since new paint on the back side of the panel cover will be touching the breaker and maybe a violation of some sort, I am a cautious guy when it comes to electrical.

Haha, trust me no pink or purple. I am trying to go as original as possible with the color but i am having trouble finding the best color that fits it. Do any of you guys know what the best shade of gray that will be close to the color of all the electrical panels? Also no worries about their hands inside the panel. And thanks for all your help.

Jim Port 12-26-2013 10:37 PM

Paint it whatever color you like.

joed 12-27-2013 08:04 AM

Why is pink or purple not allowed?

gregzoll 12-27-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joed (Post 1283164)
Why is pink or purple not allowed?

It is called a joke, or Ribbing someone. Gee.

gregzoll 12-27-2013 08:14 AM

Take it to a Auto Body shop. They can do a better job and cleaning it up, and then spray it with the color you want, then put on a coat of Clear coat. It will look better than anything.

Now of course depending on how bad the rust is, you may have to see if you can get a replacement Dead Front for that panel. Post the Mfg & model info on that panel, to see if worse case scenario, you can still get a replacement Dead Front.

Rango 12-27-2013 08:59 AM

Just grab some color swatches at a paint store or bring the panel in to have it matched. Use enamel and roll it with a short foam roller. Unless you are set up with spraying.

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1283171)
Take it to a Auto Body shop. They can do a better job and cleaning it up, and then spray it with the color you want, then put on a coat of Clear coat. It will look better than anything.

Wow, that's going to be one expensive paint job. Might as well get 'er pinstriped as well.

gregzoll 12-27-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1283197)
Wow, that's going to be one expensive paint job. Might as well get 'er pinstriped as well.

Not as expensive as getting a Stove, Stand up Freezer or Refrigerator done. Most shops will charge under $100 to do the job.

Rango 12-27-2013 10:02 AM

I'm a little skeptical on that. There are quite a few steps involved whether it's one square ft. or 100. I can maybe see it if they are going to use a color in production.

gregzoll 12-27-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1283237)
I'm a little skeptical on that. There are quite a few steps involved whether it's one square ft. or 100. I can maybe see it if they are going to use a color in production.

You would be surprised. This along with detailing is actually Body shops bread & butter, since insurance companies are in control, when it comes to paying on repairs.

Auto body shops actually take a hit, when an insurance company pays them, so these side jobs make up for those loses.

I can get any of my vehicles with a complete detail, inside and out, with scratches fixed in my town for around $150 at any of the local body shops.

Something like the OP is probably not going to be more that $100 to do.

md2lgyk 12-27-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1283078)
Onboard ship, we always painted the panels in spaces, to match the wall color of that space. We did mask the plate on the face of the panel, so that we could easily see the info that matched the panel with the drawings. Every now and then in the Supply or Airdale (Flight deck & hanger deck crew), you would find one of their panels with the designator plate painted over.

Silly target sailors! On a submarine, painting underway, or even storing paint onboard, was strictly prohibited. Many of our panels were laminated to match the bulkhead paneling; otherwise, they were gray or stainless.

gregzoll 12-27-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by md2lgyk (Post 1283278)
Silly target sailors! On a submarine, painting underway, or even storing paint on board, was strictly prohibited. Many of our panels were laminated to match the bulkhead paneling; otherwise, they were gray or stainless.

Have you forgotten that I was in the Gator Navy, on the USS Saipan LHA-3. Compared to the bubbleheads, those of us that were in the Surface fleet, get the pleasure of getting yearly Chest X-rays and Blood tests, due to the chemicals we worked with, along with working around Lead Based Paint, and Asbestos on Steam Piping and on the coverings over the Boilers.

My Blood & X-rays come clean of any nasties, other than high cholesterol levels for blood work. I am not giving up my microbrews or Burgers & Fries anytime soon. My dr. will have to pry that stuff out of my cold dead hands, if he tries to tell me that I can no longer have those pleasures.

md2lgyk 12-27-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1283353)
Have you forgotten that I was in the Gator Navy, on the USS Saipan LHA-3. Compared to the bubbleheads, those of us that were in the Surface fleet, get the pleasure of getting yearly Chest X-rays and Blood tests, due to the chemicals we worked with, along with working around Lead Based Paint, and Asbestos on Steam Piping and on the coverings over the Boilers.

My Blood & X-rays come clean of any nasties, other than high cholesterol levels for blood work. I am not giving up my microbrews or Burgers & Fries anytime soon. My dr. will have to pry that stuff out of my cold dead hands, if he tries to tell me that I can no longer have those pleasures.

Didn't forget - don't know that I ever knew what ship you were on. Never realized you surface guys had so much monitoring to put up with. We had pretty much none of that stuff (especially the X-rays. Last thing a nuke needs is more radiation). Cholesterol?? I don't remember ever being tested for that. But then, my Navy days were before the weight control program and other healthy stuff.


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