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Old 01-09-2012, 06:02 AM   #31
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He did :/ Apparently guys posting links to an Ebay auction of an antique electrical code book is professional, but trying to identify old electrical sockets isnt?
Man, get over it!

YES, posting a link to an old code book, BY A VALID professional member is professional. And looking for antique parts, by someone who is NOT, is NOT allowed.

I am SO sorry that you do not fit the description of the site rules, and I am SO sorry that I am not willing to bend or break the rules because you have some special question or need. We get DIYers ALL the time who simply ignore the rules because they think their question is special, or they need "professional" help. SORRY, that is simply not how it works.

I hate addressing this publicly in the forum but you have PM' and VM's turned off, so here it is.

I'll even extend the offer to contact 480 regarding that image. I bet all it is at this point is just an image, but what do you want to know?

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Old 01-09-2012, 06:15 AM   #32
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Man, get over it!

YES, posting a link to an old code book, BY A VALID professional member is professional. And looking for antique parts, by someone who is NOT, is NOT allowed.

I am SO sorry that you do not fit the description of the site rules, and I am SO sorry that I am not willing to bend or break the rules because you have some special question or need. We get DIYers ALL the time who simply ignore the rules because they think their question is special, or they need "professional" help. SORRY, that is simply not how it works.
You terminated his account, yet the rules for membership are posted as follows: (http://www.electriciantalk.com/faq.p...antalk#faq_tos)

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a) Membership is generally available to any person at least 13 years old who registers and accurately provides all the required information, provides a legitimate electronic mail address and obtains a unique Electrician Talk member name and password; however, Electrician Talk reserves the right to deny membership to any person, for any reason, with or without cause. Membership is non-transferable. The use of web-based email accounts may be denied due to abuse.
b) All membership information must be accurate and belong to the person registering. Invalid, incomplete, or falsified information can result in: the immediate termination of all membership privileges for that user; the user being permanently banned; and/or restricting the user from using any of Electrician Talk’s (or any affiliated website) services at any time.
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So while it was within your scope as a moderator to delete his account for 'no cause', he did not appear to violate the rule of membership as outlined in the terms of service.

In fact, the posting rules, which are again publicly available upon registration to the site AND above each forum, also do not specify that a poster must maintain a minimal level of license, or be a contractor.

So what hidden, cryptic rules did this guy violate?


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Old 01-09-2012, 06:25 AM   #33
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Wow, we can't let this simple thing go, can we?

What is you problem/concern/cause anesthes??? You must be an aclu lawyer.

I did not ban him for "no cause". There is a box on the sign up page, under the "Additional Required Information (profile)" heading, that CLEARLY states that "ElectricianTalk.com is for electrical professionals only!" THIS is what was violated.
Here is the actual text from that fill in box:

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Listen, I am a founding member and moderator at ET. If you think I did something wrong, or made a dramatically poor decision, Nathan owns both of these sites, and more. Let him know and he can chastise me.
Until then I don't feel the need to explain myself any further, especially to someone NOT even involved in the situation.
I allow PM's. Let NiteBiker write me if he is that passionate about it.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:14 AM   #34
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I can almost guarantee that's your device.
I'm pretty sure it is too. I remember seeing a plug like this where the female/male parts were reversed though.


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When guys are more concerned with fraternity membership than safety of the public, this is what happens.

I understand the reasoning behind wanting only licensed electricians posting on the forum to keep from dumb, redundant questions being asked. But honestly, after 18 years I still ask dumb, redundant questions because frankly I don't do certain things that often and I like to check with sparky's that do it every day.

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I understand not wanting to answer redundant DIY questions on a forum for tradesmen, but before you blindly ban someone, actually read their post to see if its something the members would take interest to or get irritated with.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:32 PM   #35
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If it helps I found 2 pictures searching for "disappearing door receptacle". Google books.... a Western Electric catalog and an Electrical World catalog. Both show the plug as being a female like yours.
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I dont see what all the fuss is about !
A lot of electricains that use electricain talk also
check diy from time to time,
So we DO still have access to there experience and knowledge anyway !

Lets cool down and not get too upset over what really is a trivial thing !

Have a beer or two !
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:00 PM   #37
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Yeah, let's chill out here. A little perspective: I have accounts here, on ET, and on Mike Holt's code forum. I used to be active on all three, but now that I'm not as closely involved in the industry as I was previously, I don't often participate on the other forums. Why? Because I'm not their target demographic anymore! I still technically qualify for membership, but I haven't been on a jobsite or even managed a commercial project in 4 years. Those are intended to be close-knit chat groups for people who all work in the same field. They are not general electrical help forums.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:19 PM   #38
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If it helps I found 2 pictures searching for "disappearing door receptacle". Google books.... a Western Electric catalog and an Electrical World catalog. Both show the plug as being a female like yours.

I did happen to stumble on those as well. No luck finding much on a date though.
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I agree with you dmxtothemax. This is a great forum and I will join you in a beer.
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I dont see what all the fuss is about !
A lot of electricains that use electricain talk also
check diy from time to time,
So we DO still have access to there experience and knowledge anyway !

Lets cool down and not get too upset over what really is a trivial thing !

Have a beer or two !
It happens - doesn't matter what subject we're on. . . all hell broke lose 10 years ago on a medieval maille forum led to net-wide mass bans because DCWW and TRL were competitors in the US market . . . amid the nerd-folk it was nasty, short and brutish and I bet some are still enemies.

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