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NightBiker07 01-07-2012 10:27 PM

Antique Electrical Plug
 
Ok, I happened across these while helping someone clean their basement after a flood. they were just getting tossed, so I took them home.

After a few hours on Google and finding NO INFORMATION, I began to get puzzled. I found all kinds of interesting old plug sockets, but nothing that looked remotely like this, So I'm beginning to think what I have is pretty rare.

These were once in service in the house in question. The house is 1920's or earlier, and was definitely owned by someone with wealth(servant quarters, old switches have pearl in them, even had a central vacuum system)

I have been cleaning these things up, and the same piece on every one is stamped BRYANT, and on the other side is stamped 250V, 10A. you can kind of see it on one of the pics of the socket

So, I've been asking around the internet in various places, nobody has ever seen these before, So now I am here inquiring about what I have.

picture 1. on the faceplate, you can see that the little flaps are hinged to allow the plug to be plugged in.

Pic 2 is what the socket looks like.

Pic 3 is what the plug looks like. The pic doesnt show it well, but it is only a 2 prong plug.

Pic 4 is the back of one of the cover plates

Pic 5 is the plug plugged into the socket.

ANY info would be great. The sockets are ceramic as well.


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Speedy Petey 01-07-2012 10:30 PM

In all my years I have never seen anything like that.

Where are you located?

NightBiker07 01-07-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 815875)
In all my years I have never seen anything like that.

Where are you located?

I've been getting a LOT of that kind of response around the interwebs :eek:

I'm in Toledo, OH.

Speedy Petey 01-07-2012 10:35 PM

You may have found the missing <electrical> link. :laughing:

frenchelectrican 01-07-2012 10:39 PM

I never see that in Stateside however that type of floor receptle I did see it simair to early European style and we call them sucide floor boxer or crazy zapper box due exposed pin when you push the cover open.

Merci,
Marc

jbfan 01-07-2012 10:40 PM

Is that male ends in the bottom picture?

I've never seen anything like that either, but I'm not as old as petey!

frenchelectrican 01-07-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 815889)
Is that male ends in the bottom picture?

I've never seen anything like that either, but I'm not as old as petey!

Yeah we are not super old yet but still not see everything yet and something new will pop up and say WTF is that.

Merci,
Marc

Speedy Petey 01-07-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfan (Post 815889)
Is that male ends in the bottom picture?

I've never seen anything like that either, but I'm not as old as petey!

Hey!:mad: :laughing:

jbfan 01-07-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 815911)
Hey!:mad: :laughing:

JK, I'm sure I'm older than you are.:thumbsup:

Snav 01-07-2012 11:27 PM

Harvey Hubell is one notable inventor of many early plug / switch / pull affixments for electrical use:

http://antiquesockets.com/hubbellpatents.html
(This link also has VERY good info on how to search through the earlier period of the Patent-Office Database - earlier dates are quite specific in how you enter them as they're not searchable by key-word (etc) . . . The PO is likely to have the info you want, but it would take some time to find it)


Harvey invented the "Seperable Attachment Plug" as well as the "Four Door Duplex Flush Receptacle" and a "Fixed Polarity Seperable Attachment Plug" . . . and so on.

I think you'll find learning old-fashioned terms would be helpful in your search.

Now - most of his inventions utilized a modern-appearance classic 'prong' much like what we use today. So it's likely not one of his pieces but likely someone else's design, there - but you never know.

I'll look some more and see if I can help you find it.

His "Flush Switch" here utilizes the same type of socket with the fat tapered ends much like two bottle caps. http://antiquesockets.com/patents/hu...857177-001.tif

NightBiker07 01-08-2012 12:18 AM

I have a number of switches similar to those flush switches as well. All work, but only half actually click, the other half rock back and fourth. The mechanism that causes it to click instead of slowly engage is broke.

The faces of the ON button have pearl in the face. The house was full of fancy stuff.

Julius793 01-08-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jbfan

JK, I'm sure I'm older than you are.:thumbsup:

Well how old are you guys cumon cough it up :laughing: are you old enough to be my grandpa on even older?? :) :jester:

dmxtothemax 01-08-2012 01:39 AM

Another source of information is "ELECTRICAIN TALK"
They have a vintage electrical section,
Try posting your question on there !
There are a lot of the older electricains on there,
And they are a valuable source of information.
One of them is bound to know !

dmxtothemax 01-08-2012 01:42 AM

I think that the safety authorities would have fit !
If they saw that type of socket in use today !

But it is interesting none the less !
Hope you let us know when you find out ?

mpoulton 01-08-2012 02:26 AM

Marc may be on to something. It's rated 250V, which has never been typical for branch circuits in American homes. It may well be European. Bryant was an American company, but they made wiring devices for worldwide use. Perhaps the wealthy homeowners had European appliances brought over, and had some circuits wired specifically for their use?

I could be wrong, but I didn't think the "250V" rating standard was all that old. I thought back in the day devices were rated for 110-115V and 220-230V, and the 125/250V ratings were a much more recent development. Could this perhaps not be as old as we are thinking?


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