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Old 05-30-2007, 11:51 AM   #16
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Sorry missed Gerry's post while I was typing and getting distracted.

Good thought Gerry but my wiring in the home is copper, the aluminum wires mentioned above are the ones from the pole to the top of the breaker panel. Everything in the panel is still nice and shiny (only 2 years old compared to the house turning 95 this year). The only thing that might be happening along those lines would be my downstairs lighting wiring that I was unable to replace in 6 rooms (still knob and tube which looks like copper conductors). I don't think that is the issue here, but I ill definitely consider it if the Power Co doesn't find anything this afternoon.

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:56 AM   #17
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If you have a loose connection comming into the home, it could be a problem while drawing just a few amps. Depending on how loose or corroded.
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Hi Keyser

GFCI circuit interrupters are a good bet in any loction, but especially anywhere that you are dealing with moisture, or a grounding potential.
One thought just occurred. You could also have a faulty GFCI, even though it is new, sometimes they come out of the box no good.

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Old 05-30-2007, 03:27 PM   #19
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Would that cause "brownouts" in other circuits? I hadn't thought of that.

I had a great experience with my first cheap GFCI (harbor freight), I learned that lesson the hard way. Spent most of the day retracing my wiring, pulling every outlet in the Kitchen, etc. To find out the GFCI never worked in the first place.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:15 PM   #20
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If you have a chance, when the problem is actually occuring, go to your panel and turn off ALL the double pole (240 volt) breakers. If one of the "hots" is open, it will try to backfeed through something, usually an electric hot water heater (in my experience).
If 1/2 the house goes out and the other 1/2 works fine, bingo! Its an open line wire.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:26 PM   #21
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Had a note from the Electric Co on the door when I got home.

I said "trimmed trees, repaired lines".

I looked around for the trees that were in the way. It was easy to spot. I saw where he had cut off a few branches. I'm sure the big truck is on the way to do a really nice pruning job on it. In this area there were four devices that I've never seen before. I don't normally study power lines so I have no idea if they are common or not. They look like big huge butt end connectors. Two on each of the top lines.


Is this a temporary fix? I guess the tree had started to tug on the line a bit and was causing an open line? I guess this is a good start to solving my problem.

Also, John, thanks for the easy way to tell if its the open "hot". I'll be sure to haul butt out there next time it happens to see if I can catch it. The light bulb went on again (the imaginary one over my head, not in the ceiling). I just now realized what backfeeding means when you talk about 240 devices. They are expecting 120 from both legs and when one leg isnt providing 120 the device treats the open hot as a neutral? I see why it is bad and maybe even dangerous now. I had never had to think about that phenonmenon until now.
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Interesting picture Keyser. I do not recognise the attached units. A faulty GFIC should only cause a problem on the curcuit it is attached to. Keep us posted as to the progress with the circuits. If that is the end of the problem then the trees must be pulling at the incoming wires. That still seems odd to me, as it would seem to indicate a loose connection somewhere that could be affected by the branches.

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That's what I thought too. I was guessing that the trees were putting a little extra strain on a connection at the next pole (where the lines turn to go to the meter) and maybe that was causing it. Either way, no brown outs last night. Maybe that fixed it.... I'm hopeful.

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